In the case of the dry system, however, they also serve the purpose (I
believe) to keep water out of the drop.  Once the water enters the drop,
it's trapped and will eventually corrode the pipe - sometimes to the
point of sealing the entire diameter.

In the case of a riser nipple on a branch line, the air in the branch
line will compress enough to allow water into the line, and thus will
likely enter the drops - for eternity, or until the drop is drained.

Mark A. Sornsin, PE 
Fire Protection Engineer 
Ulteig Engineers, Inc. 
Fargo, ND  
701.280.8591
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A.P.Silva
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Return Bends

I know it doesn't seem right. But is it achieving its intent? Return
bends
are used to prevent scale and other sediments being trapped at the head.
To
some extent, at least except from the individual branchline, won't this
be
achieved? 

Tony 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garth W.
Warren
Sent: May 8, 2008 5:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Return Bends

what is being proposed to you is a line on a riser nipple off of the
main
NOT return bends.  The return bend is there for a reason and what is
being
proposed to you does not serve the purpose.  The suggestion should be
rejected.

Garth

----- Original Message -----
From: "A.P.Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:08 PM
Subject: Return Bends


> I have a situation, dry system running in heated space below the attic
in
> part of the building. In other parts, within the attic space. Where it
is
> running in the heated area, sprinklers are pendent type. So the need
for
dry
> pendents or return bends. The contractor doesn't want to install
individual
> return bends for each pendent head (for cost reasons). Instead he is
> proposing to make the entire branchline as the return bend. The
branchline
> to have a riser at the connection to the main. Then from the
branchline
drop
> down directly to each pendent head. Any problems?
>
> Tony
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