Greg is correct.  Attach a short GOE piece to another longer piece - for
control - with a coupling sans the rubber.  As long as the shoulder of the
coupling will fit your groover you've got it made.

Garth

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Subject: RE: Grooving pipe


> You can groove it as short as you can get couplings on it back to back.
You
> can go less than 4" with the right fitter.
>
> Thank you,
> Greg McGahan
>
> Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
> 1160 McKenzie Road
> Cantonment, FL 32533
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> Victaulic has a 3-inch grooved nipple that is 4 inches long listed in
their
> catalog.
>
> John Hoffman, P.E.
> Fire Protection Engineer
> Facility Engineering Services, KCP, LLC
> 2000 E. 95th Street
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> What's the shortest piece of pipe that you can groove?
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> I've heard different things based on different groovers.  Say 3" dia.,
> sch. 10, black, rolled groove.
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