Two 2" branch lines were run parallel to and 18" down from the peak. EC
horizontal sidewalls were aimed parallel to the slope. A baffle board was
placed between the two rows of heads. How do you arrive at the conclusion
that this offers little or no protection? Explain yourself. Don't condemn
when you don't have the whole story.


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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:10 PM
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Subject: Re: steep pitch roofs

Todd,

Nothing, to my knowledge, is approved for such a steep slope. I 
suggested the attic sprinklers in response to the suggestion for 
sidewall sprinklers at the peak. My only intent was to suggest that, if 
you're going to go beyond the defined limits of a type of sprinkler, you 
should at least start with a type that at least is intended to work in a 
similar application. I can't say that the attic sprinklers will work, 
but if they won't, sidewall sprinklers at the peak certainly won't work 
either.

Joe

Todd Williams - FPDC wrote:
> Joe, Attic sprinklers aren't approved for slopes greater then 12:12 
> and I have about 28:12. Also, I didn't think you could use attic 
> sprinklers in occupied spaces.
>
> This is an occupied space (church sanctuary) not a concealed one. 
> Also, this is a historic building (c. 1859) and is very 
> architecturally sensitive. The pipe is exposed and soffits and baffles 
> are not an option.
>
>
> At 02:27 PM 5/23/2008, you wrote:
>> Could you use Attic sprinklers at the peak? They accomplish the same 
>> intent as sidewalls at the peak, and have actually been tested in 
>> that configuration.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Todd Williams - FPDC wrote:
>>> I am working on a historic church sanctuary with a pitch of 
>>> approximately 28/12. The arrangement calls for branch lines to be 
>>> symmetrical on each side, similar to NFPA 13 (2002) figure 
>>> 8.6.4.1.3.1(b). I can meet the requirements for the steeply pitched 
>>> roof section 8.6.4.1.3.3 and my "S" distance over the peak is good, 
>>> but my straight line distance between sprinklers would be less than 
>>> 6 ft and the deflectors would be effectively pointing the discharge 
>>> towards the sprinkler on the opposite side. I think I have a problem 
>>> here, but I am not sure how to address it. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Todd G. Williams, PE
>>> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>>> Stonington, Connecticut
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