Thom:  You don't need the handbook. A6.8.2 (2007 ed) states:

"It is only the intent of NFPA 13R to reference the sprinkler discharge (flow 
and pressure), number of design sprinklers, and position of sprinklers 
(distance from walls, ceilings, and other sprinklers) requirements of NFPA 13, 
Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems.

Other rules from NFPA 13 such as sprinklering of combustible concealed spaces, 
hose stream demand, and water supply duration are not intended to be referenced 
by 6.8.2.

It is also the intent of 6.8.2 to apply to those systems or portions of systems 
that are outside the dwelling unit but have been determined to be considered 
residential or incidental to residential and within the scope of this standard. 
(Also see A.1.1.)"

Mark A. Sornsin, PE
Fire Protection Engineer
Ulteig Engineers, Inc.
Fargo, ND

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Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NFPA 13R Areas of 13 protection

Does anyone have a 13R handbook (I heard last year they were thinking of
doing one, but haven't seen anything yet.)

Question has arisen about the meaning of 6.8.2 Design Criteria outside of
the dwelling unit. Short version "Protect as per 13." AHJ says that means
protect the pool area using 3000 SF design area @ 0.10 and (Here's where we
differ seriously) Protect the attic wood truss space above.
I believe the intent is that the spaces that would be exempt from sprinkler
protection in 13R remain exempt, and only those areas which don't fit the
residential requirements of 13R must be protected by as if you were applying
13. So attics, crawl spaces and concealed combustible spaces remain
unprotected.
Is this how you all see it. (I even question the 3000 SF requirement,
because the spaces that drive the 3000 are outside the scope of 13R, and
therefore should not affect the areas of 13R that require 13 protection.)

Any ideas or comments appreciated.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



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