The problem as I see it is that this bill amends the chapter of the State 
Century Code that sets the rules for adopting the building codes - it doesn't 
amend the building codes themselves.  It could be argued that regardless of the 
decisions made by local jurisdictions, this amendment would FORBID them to 
codify the fire sprinkler requirements of the 2009 IRC.

Beyond the opinions of yea or nea to sprinklers in homes, this bill is poorly 
written because it would have the State Legislature determine what would 
normally be considered by the building code advisory committee. Of course, for 
those against sprinklering homes, THAT is the brilliance of the bill.

I know this topic may be getting a bit regionally-specific, but I hope it 
illustrates for you all the differing avenues that may be used to attack the 
2009 IRC.

I am hoping to get over to Bismarck tomorrow a.m. for the committee hearing on 
this matter.

Mark A. Sornsin, PE
Fire Protection Engineer
Ulteig Engineers, Inc.
Fargo, ND
Direct:    701. 280.8591
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod DiBona
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Threat to the 2009 IRC

North Dakota operates very similar to South Dakota in this respect. We
are fortunate to have excellent fire prevention guys in Rapid City but
there isn't a lot of enforcement outside of city limits. One additional
point to Dave's comment is that actually the state will have to amend
the code to take out the residential portion and I believe that may be
our best angle of attack. Many jurisdictions amend the code and make it
more stringent but how often is the national code weakened? I just
wonder from a city attorney point of view if jurisdictions are willing
to amend a national code to make it weaker. Can you imagine the scenario
in a city that has struck this from the code and then endures loss of
life in  a new house. Now this city is sitting in front of a judge/jury
explaining why they knew better than the professionals whose code they
adopted?? Is that liability that jurisdictions are going to be willing
to take?

Rod DiBona
Rapid Fire Protection

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave
Sornsin
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Threat to the 2009 IRC

FYI, the way ND works is most larger cities and counties have their own
"Home Rule Charters" where they can add/change/ignore any of the state
adopted International Codes as they see fit.  For the rest of the areas,
they are governed by whatever the state adopts, but there rarely is any
enforcement.

Of course if the state doesn't adopt the residential sprinkler portion
of
the codes, the people against sprinklers will use that stance as an
additional argument against home sprinks as it comes up in each city's
code
adoption process.

....now back to getting the pins in those maverick extinguishers while
wading through chest deep foam.

Dave Sornsin
General Manager
Nardini Fire Equipment

303 20th St N
Fargo, ND 58102
701.235.4224
fax 701.235.5089
cell 701.371.0643

[email protected]
www.nardinifire.com

 -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Threat to the 2009 IRC

The bill in ND is being introduced by two representatives from Grand
Forks
and one other. The rumor is that their husbands are contractors. The
Grand
Forks Fire Marshals office is very concerned that this bill will pass.
However the wording is such that the cities will have the last word.  We
are
helping in a effort to defeat this bill by supplying information as to
cost
and benefits of sprinklers systems in homes.  This effort is being lead
by
the Fire Marshals themselves.
I wish there was a way to stop Hollywood from constantly setting off
deluge
systems as if the are standard sprinkler system.  I have had to explain
this
so many times.   Once again the sheep follow.


Robert Thompson
CET III
Dakota Fire Protection
Grand Forks, ND




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