The 250# is also for permanence and durability.  During and after installation, 
people grab the pipe to balance themselves, move scaffolding, do pull-ups etc.  
Even if the "tie off" justification were refuted in a proposal to remove the 
250#, the TC would still keep it.  

J. Scott Mitchell, P.E.

--- On Fri, 4/10/09, Thom McMahon <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Thom McMahon <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Hangers vs. structure to hang from
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 3:02 PM

I would give them the "Actual" weight of the water filled pipe, and just
note that your hanger materials shall be in accordance with chapter 9 NFPA
13. The structural safety factors and point loads are the structural
engineers responsibility.


Just a adjunct to your question, Why do we have to allow the weight of the
pipe + 250# (Weight of average fitter?) to our loads, when OSHA doesn't
allow tie off to anything but the structure, and that has to handle impact
loads of over 3000#? Isn't someone just as likely to tie off to a 1/2"
insulated copper water line as to our pipe, if they're not following OSHA to
begin with?

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



      
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