Sorry, not under 27.

Is his in roman numerals by the way?   ;) 


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler

OK. So we have winners. Ed's SSN is 27 so how many of you can swear you're 
younger than that.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:19 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> They were using the brass for ammunition.
>
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection Specialist
> Mechanical Department
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 
> 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron 
> Greenman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:16 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>
> Partial answer. Why? Or perhaps something else was happening between
> 1941 & 1945?
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Autry, David<[email protected]> wrote:
>> World War II
>>
>> David Autry
>> Plans Examiner
>> Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
>> 246 S. 14th Street
>> Lincoln, NE 68508
>> 402-471-9659
>> 402-471-3118 fax
>> www.sfm.ne.gov
>>
>> ** Note new email address: [email protected]
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron 
>> Greenman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:10 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>>
>> Well,
>>
>> i'm not quite that old but I do know why. pop quiz worth 3 points to 
>> the first YOUNG guy that knows.Be prepared to verify your age by 
>> swearing that it's less than Ed Vining's social security number.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:02 AM, David de Vries<[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Now, Ron, play nice!
>>>
>>> I was going to add to my posting that I had an Automatic Issue A from 1945 
>>> and that Prof. Ron would be able to tell us all why this one had a steel 
>>> deflector rather than a brass deflector like the one from 1941 in my 
>>> collection.  I could have said "because he was a young sprinkler guy then 
>>> and would know from personal experience", but I did not say that.  Now that 
>>> would make you the old guy.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP
>>> Firetech Engineering Incorporated
>>> 2715 Harrison St.
>>> Evanston, IL 60201
>>> Tel: 847-733-0944
>>> Fax: 847-866-6255
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Ron Greenman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Ron Greenman <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 10:09 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't let him fool you. He's an old guy.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:05 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Don't know about a 36B, but I have a 38B in my collection.  The deflector 
>>>> is stamped "38-600B" while the frame is cast with 38B.  Date code is 
>>>> 1966.  It is a standard spray upright, half-inch orifice, 165F, link and 
>>>> lever design made by Automatic of Youngstown O.  I also have a 38B damaged 
>>>> in a fire.  The deflector, link, levers and cap are missing.  Same 
>>>> half-inch orifice, but made by Automatic of Cleveland O.  Don't know when 
>>>> Automatic moved from Cleveland to Youngstown, but must have been by 1953.  
>>>> I have a UL Fire Protection List from that year that shows them in 
>>>> Youngstown.  It also shows the 38-600B as an upright and the 38-400B as a 
>>>> pendent.  Sorry, no data sheet.
>>>>
>>>> Disclaimer:  the provision of this information in no way should be viewed 
>>>> as an admission of being an old guy.  I just collect old stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP
>>>> Firetech Engineering Incorporated
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Vince Sabolik <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Vince Sabolik <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Old, old sprinkler
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 9:23 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good morning all -- especially you old guys...
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a cut sheet on Automatic Sprinkler's issue 36B head?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks, Vince
>>>>
>>>> Vince Sabolik
>>>> Christi Fire Protection, Inc.
>>>> 11351 Pearl Road
>>>> Strongsville, Ohio 44136
>>>>
>>>> T 440 572-7730  F 440 572-7719  Email:
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>
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>>>
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