He's got some great stories and really does have personal knowledge
about how that brass was put to use in munitions during those years.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:48 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Awesome!   Bet he's got some great stories about how they put sprinklers in 
> the pyramids!
>
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection Specialist
> Mechanical Department
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> Direct - 864.599.4102
> Fax - 864.599.8439
> [email protected]
> http://www.ch2m.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:46 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>
> It's on mud tablets in cuneiform.
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sorry, not under 27.
>>
>> Is his in roman numerals by the way?   ;)
>>
>>
>> Craig L. Prahl, CET
>> Fire Protection Specialist
>> Mechanical Department
>> CH2MHILL
>> Lockwood Greene
>> 1500 International Drive
>> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax -
>> 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
>> Greenman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:21 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>>
>> OK. So we have winners. Ed's SSN is 27 so how many of you can swear you're 
>> younger than that.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:19 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> They were using the brass for ammunition.
>>>
>>>
>>> Craig L. Prahl, CET
>>> Fire Protection Specialist
>>> Mechanical Department
>>> CH2MHILL
>>> Lockwood Greene
>>> 1500 International Drive
>>> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax -
>>> 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
>>> Greenman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:16 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>>>
>>> Partial answer. Why? Or perhaps something else was happening between
>>> 1941 & 1945?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Autry, David<[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> World War II
>>>>
>>>> David Autry
>>>> Plans Examiner
>>>> Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
>>>> 246 S. 14th Street
>>>> Lincoln, NE 68508
>>>> 402-471-9659
>>>> 402-471-3118 fax
>>>> www.sfm.ne.gov
>>>>
>>>> ** Note new email address: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
>>>> Greenman
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:10 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>>>>
>>>> Well,
>>>>
>>>> i'm not quite that old but I do know why. pop quiz worth 3 points to
>>>> the first YOUNG guy that knows.Be prepared to verify your age by
>>>> swearing that it's less than Ed Vining's social security number.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:02 AM, David de Vries<[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Now, Ron, play nice!
>>>>>
>>>>> I was going to add to my posting that I had an Automatic Issue A from 
>>>>> 1945 and that Prof. Ron would be able to tell us all why this one had a 
>>>>> steel deflector rather than a brass deflector like the one from 1941 in 
>>>>> my collection.  I could have said "because he was a young sprinkler guy 
>>>>> then and would know from personal experience", but I did not say that.  
>>>>> Now that would make you the old guy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP
>>>>> Firetech Engineering Incorporated
>>>>> 2715 Harrison St.
>>>>> Evanston, IL 60201
>>>>> Tel: 847-733-0944
>>>>> Fax: 847-866-6255
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Ron Greenman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Ron Greenman <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 10:09 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't let him fool you. He's an old guy.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:05 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Don't know about a 36B, but I have a 38B in my collection.  The 
>>>>>> deflector is stamped "38-600B" while the frame is cast with 38B.  Date 
>>>>>> code is 1966.  It is a standard spray upright, half-inch orifice, 165F, 
>>>>>> link and lever design made by Automatic of Youngstown O.  I also have a 
>>>>>> 38B damaged in a fire.  The deflector, link, levers and cap are 
>>>>>> missing.  Same half-inch orifice, but made by Automatic of Cleveland O.  
>>>>>> Don't know when Automatic moved from Cleveland to Youngstown, but must 
>>>>>> have been by 1953.  I have a UL Fire Protection List from that year that 
>>>>>> shows them in Youngstown.  It also shows the 38-600B as an upright and 
>>>>>> the 38-400B as a pendent.  Sorry, no data sheet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disclaimer:  the provision of this information in no way should be 
>>>>>> viewed as an admission of being an old guy.  I just collect old stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP
>>>>>> Firetech Engineering Incorporated
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Vince Sabolik <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Vince Sabolik <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Old, old sprinkler
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 9:23 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning all -- especially you old guys...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone have a cut sheet on Automatic Sprinkler's issue 36B head?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks, Vince
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vince Sabolik
>>>>>> Christi Fire Protection, Inc.
>>>>>> 11351 Pearl Road
>>>>>> Strongsville, Ohio 44136
>>>>>>
>>>>>> T 440 572-7730  F 440 572-7719  Email:
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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