It's on mud tablets in cuneiform.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry, not under 27.
>
> Is his in roman numerals by the way?   ;)
>
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection Specialist
> Mechanical Department
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> Direct - 864.599.4102
> Fax - 864.599.8439
> [email protected]
> http://www.ch2m.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:21 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>
> OK. So we have winners. Ed's SSN is 27 so how many of you can swear you're 
> younger than that.
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:19 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> They were using the brass for ammunition.
>>
>>
>> Craig L. Prahl, CET
>> Fire Protection Specialist
>> Mechanical Department
>> CH2MHILL
>> Lockwood Greene
>> 1500 International Drive
>> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax -
>> 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
>> Greenman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:16 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>>
>> Partial answer. Why? Or perhaps something else was happening between
>> 1941 & 1945?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Autry, David<[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> World War II
>>>
>>> David Autry
>>> Plans Examiner
>>> Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
>>> 246 S. 14th Street
>>> Lincoln, NE 68508
>>> 402-471-9659
>>> 402-471-3118 fax
>>> www.sfm.ne.gov
>>>
>>> ** Note new email address: [email protected]
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
>>> Greenman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:10 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>>>
>>> Well,
>>>
>>> i'm not quite that old but I do know why. pop quiz worth 3 points to
>>> the first YOUNG guy that knows.Be prepared to verify your age by
>>> swearing that it's less than Ed Vining's social security number.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:02 AM, David de Vries<[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Now, Ron, play nice!
>>>>
>>>> I was going to add to my posting that I had an Automatic Issue A from 1945 
>>>> and that Prof. Ron would be able to tell us all why this one had a steel 
>>>> deflector rather than a brass deflector like the one from 1941 in my 
>>>> collection.  I could have said "because he was a young sprinkler guy then 
>>>> and would know from personal experience", but I did not say that.  Now 
>>>> that would make you the old guy.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP
>>>> Firetech Engineering Incorporated
>>>> 2715 Harrison St.
>>>> Evanston, IL 60201
>>>> Tel: 847-733-0944
>>>> Fax: 847-866-6255
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Ron Greenman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Ron Greenman <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: Old, old sprinkler
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 10:09 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't let him fool you. He's an old guy.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:05 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Don't know about a 36B, but I have a 38B in my collection.  The deflector 
>>>>> is stamped "38-600B" while the frame is cast with 38B.  Date code is 
>>>>> 1966.  It is a standard spray upright, half-inch orifice, 165F, link and 
>>>>> lever design made by Automatic of Youngstown O.  I also have a 38B 
>>>>> damaged in a fire.  The deflector, link, levers and cap are missing.  
>>>>> Same half-inch orifice, but made by Automatic of Cleveland O.  Don't know 
>>>>> when Automatic moved from Cleveland to Youngstown, but must have been by 
>>>>> 1953.  I have a UL Fire Protection List from that year that shows them in 
>>>>> Youngstown.  It also shows the 38-600B as an upright and the 38-400B as a 
>>>>> pendent.  Sorry, no data sheet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Disclaimer:  the provision of this information in no way should be viewed 
>>>>> as an admission of being an old guy.  I just collect old stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP
>>>>> Firetech Engineering Incorporated
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Vince Sabolik <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Vince Sabolik <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Old, old sprinkler
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 9:23 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good morning all -- especially you old guys...
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have a cut sheet on Automatic Sprinkler's issue 36B head?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks, Vince
>>>>>
>>>>> Vince Sabolik
>>>>> Christi Fire Protection, Inc.
>>>>> 11351 Pearl Road
>>>>> Strongsville, Ohio 44136
>>>>>
>>>>> T 440 572-7730  F 440 572-7719  Email:
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Bates Technical College
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