sounds like an old hand from the TC.  Did you receive your  
confirmation letter form NFPA yet?

Roland

On Sep 2, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Justin Reid wrote:

> Chapter 8 says it is only necessary to the test the 4 heads;but,  
> 5.14 (2007
> edition) still says that the test connection shall be "sized" for  
> the low
> flow and the maximum anticipated flow. I am not sure if this was an
> oversight, or if the intent is to still provide the capability of  
> testing
> the maximum anticipated flow through the test connection, even  
> though not
> required by Chapter 8.
> The 99 edition required flow tests at the high end and low end of the
> expected design rate. The wording went away in the 2003 to only be  
> conducted
> at the minimum design operating pressure (clarified in the Appendix  
> as the 4
> heads). 2007 is much clearer now on the testing requirements in  
> Chapter 8.
> However, the wording in Chapter 5 stayed the same.
>
> The typo referencing 5.13 in the 2007 edition, probably comes from  
> "Test
> Connections" being Section 5.13 in the 2003 edition.
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Dewayne Martinez <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>
>> I have a balanced pressure system.  What confused me was that 5.13 is
>> about supervision not testing.
>> I got in touch with the manufacture and they felt it would only be
>> necessary to test the 4 head flow since the
>> proportioners typically have trouble getting the correct mix at low
>> flows.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom
>> McMahon
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:22 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Foam test connection
>>
>> NFPA 16, 2007 edition say's
>>
>> 5.14* Test Connections. System test connections shall be sized to
>> accommodate both the low flow of the proportioner and the maximum
>> anticipated flow through the proportioner.(Also see A5.14)
>>
>> Then some special requirements appear in chapter 8
>>
>> 8.4.1.4.4 For balanced pressure and positive pressure proportioning
>> systems, flow tests shall be permitted to be conducted through the  
>> test
>> connections required in Section 5.13. For other proportioning system
>> types, full-flow testing of system and discharge devices is  
>> required to
>> properly evaluate the proportioning system.
>>
>> So the answer is generally yes, but if your system is not a  
>> balanced or
>> positive pressure proportioning system full flow testing is required,
>> I'm guessing thru the system?
>>
>> Anyone out there on the 16 committee?
>>
>> Thom McMahon, SET
>> Firetech, Inc.
>> 2560 Copper Ridge Dr
>> P.O. Box 882136
>> Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
>> Tel:  970-879-7952
>> Fax: 970-879-7926
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of  
>> Dewayne
>> Martinez
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:19 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Foam test connection
>>
>> I am a bit confused on the test connection for a foam-water sprinkler
>> system.
>> Does it only have to satisfy the minimum flow of the 4 most remote
>> sprinklers or does it also have accommodate the anticipated maximum  
>> flow
>> through the proportioner?
>> Thanks,
>> Dewayne
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