well there is one consideration you could make, Steve. if you ever need an FPE review on a document, I have one. And for federal jobs, they don't care what state the PE is in.
I have 24+ continuous years in fire. and am an FPE in about half-a-dozen states, none of which border FL, though. best of the rest of 2010 to you! s On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 23:15, Steve Kowkabany <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Jim and Scot, > > KY pipe is actually what we are going to use. I am learning it now and we > have a couple of experienced users to help me through the process. It's > good to hear that it's reliable software. You always wonder how much > validation has been done with physical testing for modeling programs like > this. It seems like KY Pipe is the industry standard. > > Thanks again and have a great week, > > > Steve Kowkabany, P.E. > Fire Protection Engineer > Neptune Fire Protection Engineering LLC > 60 Ocean Boulevard, Suite 15 > Atlantic Beach, FL 32233 > 904-652-4200 Phone > 904-212-0868 Fax > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim > Davidson > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Surge Calculations > > Steve, > > I have used the KY-Pipe Surge program to conduct surge pressure transit > analysis for a large loss in order to defend the sprinkler contractor in US > Federal Court. This is the only surge program that has had significant peer > review and realistically models the pressure wave effects including the > additional pressure that results from the pressure wave crossing itself. It > can also model pressure surge chambers to determine the effects that a > curge > chamber has on the system. If you are using the KY Pipe hydraulic program > it > is easy to import, however it is not a problem with building a model from > scratch. Read the software manual because you will need to know opening > times for check valves, OS&Y valves and all related valves. > > Regards > > Jim Davidson, PE > > Jim Davidson > > Davidson Associates > Fire Protection * Medical Gas * Code Consulting > 302-994-9500 Fax:302-234-1781 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve > Kowkabany > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 6:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Surge Calculations > > Has anyone ever had to perform a surge analysis to determine the > water-hammer forces on piping for the purpose of designing pipe restraints > for a fire protection system supplied by a pump. We are being asked to > provide this and the software KY Pipe was recommended. I'm used to just > using NFPA 24 for this. It's a big underground system at an overseas > manufacturing facility. > > > > Any insights or recommendations on modeling software would be greatly > appreciated. > > > > Thanks and Happy New Years! > > > > > > Steve Kowkabany, P.E. > > Fire Protection Engineer > > Neptune Fire Protection Engineering LLC > > 60 Ocean Boulevard, Suite 15 > > Atlantic Beach, FL 32233 > > 904-652-4200 Phone > > 904-212-0868 Fax > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected]<to%[email protected]> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected]<to%[email protected]> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2594 - Release Date: 01/04/10 > 08:24:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected]<to%[email protected]> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
