To punctuate that comment piled sulfur in open sheds has it's own
standard and only refers to hydrants for protection.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:45 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> Outside piles of combustibles are typically protected by area hydrants only.
>
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection Specialist
> Mechanical Department
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd - FPDC
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Nuts
>
> Do you have a potential of a deep seeded fire within a pile of nuts that 
> sprinklers may not be able to protect. You might want to read up on piles of 
> Commodities stored outside to get some insight on how a fire would behave. 
> Sounds like a job for an FPE.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2010, at 2:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Combustible dust will be an issue but you're not going to provide any
>> kind of protection against it from a fire suppression standpoint.
>> Protection and control of dust explosions area handled by a
>> combination of architectural and structural features.
>>
>>> From a fire protection standpoint, NFPA 13 identifies bagged nuts as
>>> a Class III commodity.  That's the closes you get there.
>>
>> If you're looking for an Occupancy classification most likely OH 2
>> gets the closest since it includes Agricultural, Feed and Cereal
>> Mills.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Craig L. Prahl, CET
>> Fire Protection Specialist
>> Mechanical Department
>> CH2MHILL
>> Lockwood Greene
>> 1500 International Drive
>> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
>> Direct - 864.599.4102
>> Fax - 864.599.8439
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.ch2m.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt
>> Grise
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:53 PM
>> To: '[email protected]'
>> Subject: RE: Nuts
>>
>> That reminds me of a recycling center I looked at. They just dumped
>> paper and plastic on the ground and pushed it around with wheel
>> loaders. We called their setup 'solid pile storage'.
>>
>> One thing that comes to mind: their warehouse sounds dusty...do they
>> have/need any dust explosion protection?
>>
>> Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP
>> Sales Engineer
>> Alliance Fire Protection
>> *Licensed in KS & MO
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> Dennis Browning
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:48 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Nuts
>>
>> I have a warehouse where they dump nuts [in the shell] onto the
>> floor and then push them around with skip loaders and dump them into
>> bins and/or conveyors. My question is what would the design
>> parameters be? This is a new one for me but I'm sure not new in the
>> industry! Any help would be much appreciated.
>> Dennis Browning
>> Browning Fire Protection
>> Office # (541) 245-0466
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