"Deep Seeded" fire. I love it. C. Burton Ford Designer- NICET Certified: Fire Alarm, Special Hazards, Sprinkler Design &Sprinkler Inspections NFPA CFPS Cintas Fire Protection-D-47 Warminster, PA 18974 Phone 267-487-1000 Fax 267-487-1010
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Nuts To punctuate that comment piled sulfur in open sheds has it's own standard and only refers to hydrants for protection. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:45 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Outside piles of combustibles are typically protected by area hydrants only. > > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection Specialist > Mechanical Department > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > [email protected] > http://www.ch2m.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd - FPDC > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Nuts > > Do you have a potential of a deep seeded fire within a pile of nuts that > sprinklers may not be able to protect. You might want to read up on piles of Commodities stored outside to get some insight on how a fire would behave. Sounds like a job for an FPE. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2010, at 2:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Combustible dust will be an issue but you're not going to provide any >> kind of protection against it from a fire suppression standpoint. >> Protection and control of dust explosions area handled by a >> combination of architectural and structural features. >> >>> From a fire protection standpoint, NFPA 13 identifies bagged nuts as >>> a Class III commodity. That's the closes you get there. >> >> If you're looking for an Occupancy classification most likely OH 2 >> gets the closest since it includes Agricultural, Feed and Cereal >> Mills. >> >> >> >> >> Craig L. Prahl, CET >> Fire Protection Specialist >> Mechanical Department >> CH2MHILL >> Lockwood Greene >> 1500 International Drive >> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 >> Direct - 864.599.4102 >> Fax - 864.599.8439 >> [email protected] >> http://www.ch2m.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt >> Grise >> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:53 PM >> To: '[email protected]' >> Subject: RE: Nuts >> >> That reminds me of a recycling center I looked at. They just dumped >> paper and plastic on the ground and pushed it around with wheel >> loaders. We called their setup 'solid pile storage'. >> >> One thing that comes to mind: their warehouse sounds dusty...do they >> have/need any dust explosion protection? >> >> Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP >> Sales Engineer >> Alliance Fire Protection >> *Licensed in KS & MO >> >> 913.888.0647 ph >> 913.888.0618 f >> 913.927.0222 cell >> www. AFPsprink.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Dennis Browning >> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:48 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Nuts >> >> I have a warehouse where they dump nuts [in the shell] onto the >> floor and then push them around with skip loaders and dump them into >> bins and/or conveyors. My question is what would the design >> parameters be? This is a new one for me but I'm sure not new in the >> industry! 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