tell the contractor that "they designed it with the info available" is 
great.  Now all they have to do is apply what "really is" to prove to you 
that the design meets the minimum requirement and your initials will be all 
over the system!  Tell him not to waste any time.....start now!

Garth
retired fitter

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tom poisal" <[email protected]>
To: "sprinklerforum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 6:15 PM
Subject: Pre-designed systems


>I have a predesigned system for an assisted living facility, 2-
> stories, 40.000 sq ft, combustible construction, no attic areas,
> modular construction ie: 2 hour seperation walls between units as well
> as 2 hr ceiling, 30 minute self closing doors etc: whereas we
> installed the lines in the factory.....each unit faces a common
> hallway, thus two heads in bedroom and then kitchen, open hall and
> then reverse unit (2 heads) or living room dining room, my prob is the
> E.O.R. only performed a 2 head calc., now..... I have a corridor (5
> head calc) and dining area of 840 sq ft with no opening protection
> thus requiring the additional heads in a calc.....right??    The 1"
> system seems inadaquite, plus the 4" fire line and "Silver Bullet"
> backflow have been reduced to a 2" line with a watts 709 .....I have
> serious issues signing off on this...any help...oh yeah it's in NJ
> What are my responsibilities? Alert the AHJ, the contractor has
> already snubbed me, "they designed it with the info
> avaiable"....helpless in PA
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