good advise, thanks


On 4/7/10, George Church <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm not an attorney, but the son of a phila lawyer, I always include
> specific language that we're to be held harmless, including costs of
> defense, for any claim for damage(s) or injury including death that may
> result from the system design being faulty.
>
> I'd run the form letter past an atty-for $500, you don't want to find out
> the language is lacking when there's two deaths and a couple mil in lawsuits
> trying to find a deep pocket. I don't want a For Sale sign across the
> street.
>
> glc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of tom poisal
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 7:26 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Pre-designed systems
>
> I pretty much concieved a form letter, stating; the installation has
> met the design criterea set forth on dwg # 1 -5 and the specific
> installation notes by such and such and approved on this date by such
> and such, THIS contactor is not responsible for any errors or design
> flaws set forth for the above referenced documents and project, and
> are the sole responsiblity by the E.O.R. and code review enforcement
> personel.
>
> On 4/5/10, Todd - FPDC <[email protected]> wrote:
>> When I get asked to quote a modular job, I double my price for exactly
>> this reason.
>>
>> Write letters to everyone up the food chain. Someone should pay
>> attention. Of not, I bet there is a guy on the Forum that will.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:15 PM, tom poisal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a predesigned system for an assisted living facility, 2-
>>> stories, 40.000 sq ft, combustible construction, no attic areas,
>>> modular construction ie: 2 hour seperation walls between units as well
>>> as 2 hr ceiling, 30 minute self closing doors etc: whereas we
>>> installed the lines in the factory.....each unit faces a common
>>> hallway, thus two heads in bedroom and then kitchen, open hall and
>>> then reverse unit (2 heads) or living room dining room, my prob is the
>>> E.O.R. only performed a 2 head calc., now..... I have a corridor (5
>>> head calc) and dining area of 840 sq ft with no opening protection
>>> thus requiring the additional heads in a calc.....right??    The 1"
>>> system seems inadaquite, plus the 4" fire line and "Silver Bullet"
>>> backflow have been reduced to a 2" line with a watts 709 .....I have
>>> serious issues signing off on this...any help...oh yeah it's in NJ
>>> What are my responsibilities? Alert the AHJ, the contractor has
>>> already snubbed me, "they designed it with the info
>>> avaiable"....helpless in PA
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