well then how the heck do you open or close the door ?? just lean it across
the wall ?? seems to me all doors installed (key word) need hardware.
With all do respect any door installed in a required fire rated wall,
are required to meet the resistive rating to ensure the wall
rating..duh..please send a reference section to a code for this 'allowed
openings" in fire rated walls for perusal
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Pielow, Robert <[email protected]>wrote:
> Except in hospitals. There are some doors in rated walls in healthcare
> occupancies that do not require a fire resistive rating. Some do not
> require any hardware either.
>
> Robert J. Pielow, P.E.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of John Drucker
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 1:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: rated walls, doors, hardware sets
>
> 1) Yes - 2006 IBC Section 715 - Table 715.4
>
> 2) Yes - 2006 IBC Section 715.4.7
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> John Drucker, CET
> Fire Protection Subcode Official
> Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector
> Fire Marshals Office
> Borough of Red Bank, NJ
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 1:41 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: rated walls, doors, hardware sets
>
> Here's a general question for the IBC savvy members:
>
>
> If a wall is required to be 1 hr rated (or more), is it safe to assume
> doors
> in the wall will have some level of fire rating?
>
> Is it safe to assume doors in the wall will have self-closures?
>
>
>
> We often have to work with architectural plans that are very much lacking
> in
> details - to call them crappy is being kind. I usually feel confident the
> rated walls shown on the plan are accurate, but the door schedules
> (including hardware sets) are too often an architectural afterthought.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Ed Kramer
>
> Littleton, CO
>
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