It has not been uncommon for some design houses to not even do model 
coordination.  They get the architectural plan and do their design based on 
that alone.  All coordination with other trades is done in the field.  These 
type places are all about production, they base fees on the number of heads on 
the drawing so systems are over designed.  

What some companies fail to understand is that for the most part, if you 
underpay someone or find someone who works cheap, it will probably cost you 
more in the long run.  



Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SCĀ  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of tom poisal
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:24 PM
To: sprinklerforum
Subject: Salary

The salary results have been tabulated from the NICET web site, for
designers without formal training and nicet certification,  vs those with,
college degree's, and it seems that according to my Linkin frens plus
contractors, most companies want to recruit a CET, proficient in some sort
of CAD program be it; AutoSPRINK or SprinkCad, and pay bottom dollar for
this person and want a capable design project manager, field survey person,
design technician, etc. all for under 50K a year. What is the "going" rate ?

  On an aside I was just told by a major designer (free lance) that they do
NOT site survey for ease of installation, it is coordinated via AutoCad.  Go
figure!

-- 
Tom Poisal, CET
Fire Sprink Ink
(570) 374-1364
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