Ken thats how I see it. But the remainder of your space is "sales" which is
mercantile, ORD GP II - .2 density

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:24 PM, ParsleyConsulting <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> I have a building which has a 260 sqft area which requires 0.5 gpm/sqft
> over 2,500 sqft due to storage commodity and height. The unrated walls
> separating the storage area from the sales area extend a foot above the
> 11'-0" ceiling in the sales area, while the storage area is open to the
> 16'-0" roof deck.  Total suite area is only 1,300 ft2.
>
> Do I have to extend the 0.5 density to the entire rest of the space
> above the ceiling which is adjacent and open to the storage room?  Or do
> I simply extend it 150'-0" past the room, based on Section and Table
> A.12.3 ('10 edition of -13)?
>
> My interpretation of those sections, along with 12.3(1) is that I'd have
> to provide 0.5 gpm/sqft over the storage area, plus 15'-0", while the
> remainder of the space would only require 0.10 gpm density for light
> hazard.  The high temp sprinklers would have to extend beyond the
> storage area by 30', but only the first 15' require the higher density.
>
> Does that line up with your thinking?
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> tom poisal wrote:
> > Russell, the latter is correct, .3 over the area plus 15' border. the
> > balance is .2.  The size of the of the operating area is determined by
> the
> > higher hazard. A.11.2.3.1.1 (02 handbook)
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Russell <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Please bear with me for not letting this topic go but I need to confirm
> >> something. I cannot remember the last time I dealt with adjacent hazards
> >> that were not separated by a partion.
> >> NFPA 13 '10 A11.1.2 leads me to believe that if a .3 density hazard
> >> requires 2500 s.f. then the remote area for that hazard would take in
> that
> >> area and as much of the .2 density hazard area as necessary to fulfill
> the
> >> 2500 s.f. (understanding that the .3 would not be required for the .2
> area).
> >> That doesn't seem just to me. If the .3 area plus the 15' border doesn't
> >> cover enough area to attain 2500 s.f. then use only all the area it does
> >> involve plus the border because the .2 occupany isn't the same fire
> threat.
> >> Does that make any sense?
> >>
> >> Russell
> >>
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