No, Tom, the remainder of the space is "light hazard" which is the space 
above the ceiling OVER the sales area.  The space under the ceiling is 
protected at 0.20 gpm/ft2, but the space at the combustible roof deck 
would only require LH density, even though the sprinklers there were 
spaced at 130 ft2 in the original install.

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tom poisal wrote:
> Ken thats how I see it. But the remainder of your space is "sales" which is
> mercantile, ORD GP II - .2 density
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:24 PM, ParsleyConsulting <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Tom,
>>
>> I have a building which has a 260 sqft area which requires 0.5 gpm/sqft
>> over 2,500 sqft due to storage commodity and height. The unrated walls
>> separating the storage area from the sales area extend a foot above the
>> 11'-0" ceiling in the sales area, while the storage area is open to the
>> 16'-0" roof deck.  Total suite area is only 1,300 ft2.
>>
>> Do I have to extend the 0.5 density to the entire rest of the space
>> above the ceiling which is adjacent and open to the storage room?  Or do
>> I simply extend it 150'-0" past the room, based on Section and Table
>> A.12.3 ('10 edition of -13)?
>>
>> My interpretation of those sections, along with 12.3(1) is that I'd have
>> to provide 0.5 gpm/sqft over the storage area, plus 15'-0", while the
>> remainder of the space would only require 0.10 gpm density for light
>> hazard.  The high temp sprinklers would have to extend beyond the
>> storage area by 30', but only the first 15' require the higher density.
>>
>> Does that line up with your thinking?
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>>
>> Ken Wagoner, SET
>>
>> 760.745.6181 voice
>>
>> 760.745.0537 fax
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> tom poisal wrote:
>>     
>>> Russell, the latter is correct, .3 over the area plus 15' border. the
>>> balance is .2.  The size of the of the operating area is determined by
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> higher hazard. A.11.2.3.1.1 (02 handbook)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Russell <[email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Please bear with me for not letting this topic go but I need to confirm
>>>> something. I cannot remember the last time I dealt with adjacent hazards
>>>> that were not separated by a partion.
>>>> NFPA 13 '10 A11.1.2 leads me to believe that if a .3 density hazard
>>>> requires 2500 s.f. then the remote area for that hazard would take in
>>>>         
>> that
>>     
>>>> area and as much of the .2 density hazard area as necessary to fulfill
>>>>         
>> the
>>     
>>>> 2500 s.f. (understanding that the .3 would not be required for the .2
>>>>         
>> area).
>>     
>>>> That doesn't seem just to me. If the .3 area plus the 15' border doesn't
>>>> cover enough area to attain 2500 s.f. then use only all the area it does
>>>> involve plus the border because the .2 occupany isn't the same fire
>>>>         
>> threat.
>>     
>>>> Does that make any sense?
>>>>
>>>> Russell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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