Oh he will use fire in some way, guaranteed. Greg, was this a total 12 sprinklers in the bag? Or 12 of the (x) number fused?
R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis, CET Automatic Fire Sprinklers Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. 318-387-1134 Voice 318-816-1087 Mobile 318-387-1163 Facsimile [email protected] > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum- > >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Reed Roisum > >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:18 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: heads in plastic bags > > > >I bet Cahill has already begun his experiment...although I'm sure he is > >disappointed that he doesn't get to set fire to anything on this one. > > > > > >Reed A. Roisum, CET > >Ulteig Engineers, Inc. > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum- > >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Grise > >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:09 PM > >To: '[email protected]' > >Subject: RE: heads in plastic bags > > > >Perhaps the box allows some of the hot air to escape? The bag would > >certainly allow radiative and convective heat into the package faster > >than the cardboard. If the bag was in the sun, the radiation would be > >allowed to directly heat the heads and elements. Add the trapped hot air > >and maybe it is enough... > > > >Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP > >Sales Engineer > >Alliance Fire Protection > >*Licensed in KS & MO > > > >913.888.0647 ph > >913.888.0618 f > >913.927.0222 cell > >www. AFPsprink.com > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum- > >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan > >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:05 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: heads in plastic bags > > > >I heard years ago from a 30 yr man that if you put heads in a ziploc > >plastic bag that the heads would fuse when it is hot, but he had never > >seen them fuse in or out of a box otherwise. We just had 12 heads fuse > >in a ziploc bag with the plastic caps still in place in an enclosed > >building under construction. It is a mystery to me, the glass was in the > >bag, there are no marks on the heads, they are just fused. It is hot > >here - 103 ish - but not that hot. > > > >I also have never seen heads fuse in the back of a truck etc around > >here, but these have. > > > >Thanks > > > >On 8/12/2010 12:53 PM, Ron Greenman wrote: > >> Why would heat transference into and out of a plastic bag be different > >> than the same regarding a box except for time lag? Now if directly in > >> the sun you'd get more radiant impingement quicker through the plastic > >> bag, if clear but I doubt if it would be significant. I think people > >> tend to equate how they "feel" regarding their own ability to regulate > >> their body temperature with heat on inanimate objects. Consider the > >> concept of one blanket or coat being "warmer" than another or that it > >> is "cooler" in the shade or when sitting in front of a fan. Is it the > >> insulating properties of the one blanket over the other relative to > >> your ability to produce heat or to some inherent quality of "hotness" > >> in the blanket (electric blankets notwithstanding)? Or is the breeze > >> from the fan wicking away your sweat quicker than evaporation by > >> itself causing you to lose heat quicker and thereby feeling cooler? > >> How about in the shade? Is the ambient air cooler or are you just not > >> being impinged on by both convection and radiation rather then just > >> the former? So put heads in the direct sun, in an environment where > >> heat in is faster than heat out and maybe, but I gots to think it > >> would have to be in Death Valley or somewhere equivalent. > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Greg McGahan<[email protected]> > >wrote: > >> > >>> Anybody ever heard that if you put sprinklers in plastic bags that it > >can > >>> cause them to fuse when heads in boxes won't - from heat inside trucks > >etc? > >>> Thanks, > >>> Greg > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >>> > >>> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > >[email protected] > >>> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >-- > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3065 - Release Date: 08/12/10 > >01:34:00 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
