Oh he will use fire in some way, guaranteed.

Greg, was this a total 12 sprinklers in the bag? Or 12 of the (x) number
fused?

R/
Matt
 

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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Reed Roisum
> >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:18 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: heads in plastic bags
> >
> >I bet Cahill has already begun his experiment...although I'm sure he is
> >disappointed that he doesn't get to set fire to anything on this one.
> >
> >
> >Reed A. Roisum, CET
> >Ulteig Engineers, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Grise
> >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:09 PM
> >To: '[email protected]'
> >Subject: RE: heads in plastic bags
> >
> >Perhaps the box allows some of the hot air to escape? The bag would
> >certainly allow radiative and convective heat into the package faster
> >than the cardboard. If the bag was in the sun, the radiation would be
> >allowed to directly heat the heads and elements. Add the trapped hot air
> >and maybe it is enough...
> >
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> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan
> >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:05 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: heads in plastic bags
> >
> >I heard years ago from a 30 yr man that if you put heads in a ziploc
> >plastic bag  that the heads would fuse when it is hot, but he had never
> >seen them fuse in or out of a box otherwise. We just had 12 heads fuse
> >in a ziploc bag with the plastic caps still in place in an enclosed
> >building under construction. It is a mystery to me, the glass was in the
> >bag, there are no marks on the heads, they are just fused. It is hot
> >here - 103 ish - but not that hot.
> >
> >I also have never seen heads fuse in the back of a truck etc around
> >here, but these have.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >On 8/12/2010 12:53 PM, Ron Greenman wrote:
> >> Why would heat transference into and out of a plastic bag be different
> >> than the same regarding a box except for time lag? Now if directly in
> >> the sun you'd get more radiant impingement quicker through the plastic
> >> bag, if clear but I doubt if it would be significant. I think people
> >> tend to equate how they "feel" regarding their own ability to regulate
> >> their body temperature with heat on inanimate objects. Consider the
> >> concept of one blanket or coat being "warmer" than another or that it
> >> is "cooler" in the shade or when sitting in front of a fan. Is it the
> >> insulating properties of the one blanket over the other relative to
> >> your ability to produce heat or to some inherent quality of "hotness"
> >> in the blanket (electric blankets notwithstanding)? Or is the breeze
> >> from the fan wicking away your sweat quicker than evaporation by
> >> itself causing you to lose heat quicker and thereby feeling cooler?
> >> How about in the shade? Is the ambient air cooler or are you just not
> >> being impinged on by both convection and radiation rather then just
> >> the former? So put heads in the direct sun, in an environment where
> >> heat in is faster than heat out and maybe, but I gots to think it
> >> would have to be in Death Valley or somewhere equivalent.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Greg McGahan<[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anybody ever heard that if you put sprinklers in plastic bags that it
> >can
> >>> cause them to fuse when heads in boxes won't - from heat inside trucks
> >etc?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Greg
> >>>
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