I've told a a couple of COE engineers they're nuts, in so many words. It's fun, particularly when you already have the ear of he colonel and you make more sense to him than his own guys.
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > BTW, what kind of sprinkler are you going to specify that includes a > blast-resistant element? > > > > At 05:02 PM 11/11/2010, you wrote: >> >> Understood but if they're telling you they want a white unicorn, ask them >> where you can get one. >> The engineer should have some knowledge of who manufactures or engineers >> such a system if he's specifying it, right? Or is it too presumptuous to >> assume he's actually done any research before writing the spec? >> >> Craig Prahl >> CH2MHILL/SPB >> 864-599-4102 >> ________________________________________ >> From: [email protected] >> [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff Whitfield >> [[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:50 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Seismic Question >> >> Craig, >> >> This is a military job and the building would be way up on the list for >> likely terrorist attack. It's a Dental Clinic. Like Todd said - Our tax >> dollars at work for us!! What a waste. But I'm still not bold enough to >> tell the Corp of Engineers they are a bunch of idiots - as much as I would >> like to. >> >> Cliff >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:30 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Seismic Question >> >> Man don't even mess with this. This is obviously an engineer who is lost >> in >> space. There is no way to protect pipng from a blast unless someone is >> providing explosion resistant structure between the blast hazard and the >> pipe. In no case is there any way to protect piping from a blast when >> it's >> directly exposed. It's just stupid to even ask for such a thing. The >> chracteristics of the explosion, direction, mass displacement, building >> damage, etc., etc. can not be accounted for by "Bracing". Ask this >> genius >> what he has in mind, it will probably not be anything since he figures >> you're the contractor and should be all knowing in this matter. >> >> Geez.................... >> >> >> Craig Prahl >> CH2MHILL/SPB >> 864-599-4102 >> ________________________________________ >> From: [email protected] >> [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff Whitfield >> [[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:58 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Seismic Question >> >> I have an unusual situation on a project and would like some opinions. >> >> We are currently doing a project where seismic bracing has been specified >> for 'blast protection' (or something like that). The project is not in a >> zone that would otherwise require seismic protection. So here is my >> question. >> >> Are restraining straps required to be installed on the beam clamps? >> >> Now before you answer, consider this - NFPA 13 2007 - 9.3.7.1 - C-type >> clamps ... used to attach hangers to the building structure IN AREAS >> SUBJECT >> TO EARTHQUAKES shall be equipped with a retraining strap. >> >> Ok, now what is your opinion? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cliff Whitfield, SET >> President >> Fire Design, Inc. >> 850-526-1886 >> >> [email protected] >> www.fire-design.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > Todd G. 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