ATFP requirements apply to more than just Mission Essential facilities.

Robert J. Pielow, P.E.
Fire Protection & Life Safety


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff Whitfield
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Seismic Question

Craig,

This is a military job and the building would be way up on the list for
likely terrorist attack.  It's a Dental Clinic.  Like Todd said - Our tax
dollars at work for us!!  What a waste.  But I'm still not bold enough to
tell the Corp of Engineers they are a bunch of idiots - as much as I would
like to.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Seismic Question

Man don't even mess with this.  This is obviously an engineer who is lost in
space.  There is no way to protect pipng from a blast unless someone is
providing explosion resistant structure between the blast hazard and the
pipe.  In no case is there any way to protect piping from a blast when it's
directly exposed.  It's just stupid to even ask for such a thing.  The
chracteristics of the explosion, direction, mass displacement, building
damage, etc., etc.  can not be accounted for by "Bracing".  Ask this genius
what he has in mind, it will probably not be anything since he figures
you're the contractor and should be all knowing in this matter.

Geez.................... 


Craig Prahl
CH2MHILL/SPB
864-599-4102
________________________________________
From: [email protected]
[[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff Whitfield
[[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Seismic Question

 I have an unusual situation on a project and would like some opinions.

We are currently doing a project where seismic bracing has been specified
for 'blast protection' (or something like that).  The project is not in a
zone that would otherwise require seismic protection.  So here is my
question.

Are restraining straps required to be installed on the beam clamps?

Now before you answer, consider this - NFPA 13 2007 - 9.3.7.1 - C-type
clamps ... used to attach hangers to the building structure IN AREAS SUBJECT
TO EARTHQUAKES shall be equipped with a retraining strap.

Ok, now what is your opinion?

Thanks,

Cliff Whitfield, SET
President
Fire Design, Inc.
850-526-1886

[email protected]
www.fire-design.com


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