Put the 'ball' back into the hands that wrote the specs. A/E's need to be held responsible more for their work, or lack thereof. Seems like A/Es are let off the hook too often and the subcontractors are called to clean up the mess. Owners are paying for their services and should receive what they pay for. Why is it the subcontractor is always asked to make the sacrifice?
Portions of the codes are prescriptive based, however, there are portions of the codes that are open for an engineer/designer choice. These design options should be discussed with responsible parties before decisions are finalized. Duane Johnson, PE Program Manager Division of the Fire Marshal (Support Contractor) Office of Research Services National Institutes of Health 301-496-0487 "Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time" -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Hewitt [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 4:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: @#*% Hose Stations If this is not a design-build project, and the specs do not require them, even though the AHJ does, then I agree, the plumber that wrote the FP specs blew it. Jeff Hewitt, PE, SET, SFPE (Professional Member) Corporate Engineer Bi-State Fire Protection Corporation 241 Hughes Lane St. Charles, MO 63301 636-946-0011 636-946-5172 (fax) 314-574-6989 (cell) Fire Sprinklers Save lives. Can You Live Without Them? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 2:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: @#*% Hose Stations I know this is a no brainer but any help would be appreciated. We are doing a warehouse system with ESFR heads, shop drawings were approved by all parties, Architect, Engineer, AHJ. The only comment was from the AHJ that stated he wanted (3) hose stations added, no big deal. We send the GC a change order for the addition of the hose stations and it gets approved; now the GC wants us to provide additional information as to why we didn't include hose station in our original bid. We explained that there were no hose stations shown in the contract drawings or in the spec's and that NFPA-13 doesn't require them. Apparently the owner is trying to get the GC to pay for them because he didn't consult his crystal ball when he bid it and should have seen that the AHJ was going to add them! I know we're clean from our end but was just trying to help the GC out, any ideas? Brian Harris First Defense Fire Protection 11957 Ramah Church Road Huntersville, NC 28078 Phone: 704.948.3506 Fax: 704.948.3507 Nicet # 128476 ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16540) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
