Herb; 2007 Edition see

 6*3 condition 3. . . Piping connected to the system that supplies only 
plumbing fixtures complies with local plumbing and health authority 
requirements but is not required to be listed.

2010 Edition see 6.3.3.1 (same text  as above.)

6.3.3 All piping in the system supplying sprinklers shall  be listed and 
conform to piping specifications of this standard.

This is the same as condition 2 in 2007

My note: not an official interpretation of a committee member bla bla 
disclaimer required because I was a committee member in 2010 cycle 

Everything  before the sprinklers must be listed. Only piping off the system to 
a fixture can be not listed by UL or other lab.  (And plumbing pipe and 
fittings and sprinklers must have NSF approval for potable water.)

Hope this helps. My internet is down so I had to send this with my phone sorry.

Nice to hear from you.

Mike Cabral


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-----Original Message-----
From: "Herb" <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:13:03 
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 13D Multipurpose Inspection

Mike
It's been a while since we've talked.  I have come across some interesting
stuff lately regarding multipurpose systems and wanted to run it by you.  

I have plumbers and the mfg rep from Uponor telling me that it is perfectly
legal and acceptable to install a normal domestic plumbing system using non
listed PEX pipe and non UL listed (1821) fittings and tie it into the
sprinkler heads.  They say the way they read the code (they haven't been
able to identify the code number yet) as long as the fitting with the
sprinkler is listed, the 'T' off the plumbing system is listed, and the PEX
in between is listed they are legal and conforming to code.  This seems
wrong to me.  It defeats the purpose of requiring the fire sprinkler system
to be composed of UL 1821 listed components if 95% of the pipe and fittings
between the incoming water and the sprinkler system is not listed for fire.

Comments?

Herb Schairbaum
Blue Water Fire Sprinklers
253-279-3603
253-927-8781 Fax
[email protected]



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