Well Brad, I think the stuff for the slopes may have been based on comparative 
testing done when attic heads were being tested. Seems I recall seeing big 
roofs pretty well gutted when protected by ss heads. I certainly don't like the 
idea of QR on dry systems at all and I think to give the calc a bonus for using 
them thusly would be a really bad idea. You could use attic heads and avoid A/D 
altogether.

Ron Greenman 
...On the phone

On Feb 7, 2011, at 3:33 PM, "Brad Casterline" <[email protected]> wrote:

> :) make mine a double. I enjoyed every response, and look forward to more-
> (I CAN sleep, but it is fitful). To me the inequality is not so complicated-
> we come up with a certain calc area- THEN, if dry, increase 30%. For the
> example I gave, we increase over 200%- straight out of 13, no modeling,
> tests, or changing tried and true applications.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Greenman [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: a glaring inequality in 13?
> 
> Bingo. And I have some olden editions full of stuff that was different
> then than now. I don't know why but I can assume the authors did. I
> can fret about it and try to second guess what the were thinking or I
> can have a nice Scotch.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Thom <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> What I see is general Knowledge of what works vs. both the expense to run
>> real tests of every possible config. And the lack of quality modeling to
> use
>> in lieu of all those tests.
>> If one of you wins the Powerball and wants to donate the cost of testing,
>> that's about the only way I see this difference between what is! And What
>> MAY be appropriate.
>> 
>> Money talks, but experience rules! 13 is mostly over 100yrs of not having
> to
>> re-think what didn't work, but following what did.
>> 
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