See 6.2.7.1 and 6.2.7.2 (2010 edt.) Keep in mind Plastic was specified...

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Matthew J. Willis
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Tysinger
> >Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:46 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: Plastic Escutcheons
> >
> >My understanding is that anything beyond semi-recessed is not required to
> >be listed. I have talked to a particular manufacturer who confirmed this.
> >If you think about it, once you extend the sprinkler beyond this point,
> >your are essentially just sealing the hole around the pipe/fitting. In
> >reality you are making it look pretty.
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Eric Tysinger CET
> >NICET III - 108988
> >Designer
> >Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.
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> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew J. Willis
> >Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 4:30 PM
> >To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: Plastic Escutcheons
> >
> >I have decided to quote alum (painted white), with a stainless option.
> >To answer your questions Andy, yes the 1/2" are listed. I do not know if
> >drilling them voids it. The problem arises in that I have no paper
> >document to submit to the state showing approval. The only one available
> >is for the 1/2"
> >
> >
> >R/
> >Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Matthew J. Willis
> >Automatic Fire Sprinklers
> >Norred Fire Systems L.L.C.
> >318-387-1134 Voice
> >318-816-1087 Mobile
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> >[email protected]
> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: [email protected]
> >> >[mailto:sprinklerforum- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy
> >> >Johnston
> >> >Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:24 PM
> >> >To: Sprinklerforum
> >> >Subject: Re: Plastic Escutcheons
> >> >
> >> >Are the 1/2" listed?
> >> >Would drilling them out void there listing?  I've see people use the
> >> >two piece snap arounds used but have not found a listed one to meet
> >code.
> >> >Andy
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> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: "Morey, Mike" <[email protected]>
> >> >Sender: [email protected]
> >> >Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:59:40
> >> >To: <[email protected]>
> >> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >> >Subject: RE: Plastic Escutcheons
> >> >
> >> >I think you'd have better luck trying to source a stainless
> >> >escutcheon (assuming that's acceptable, which it seems like it should
> >> >be?), Vikings "standard flat" is available in 3/4 stainless for
> >> >example.  Seems like the listing process would be prohibitive for
> >> >such a small market when you can just make them from non ferrous
> >> >metal?  Not that being listed has stopped manufacturers from making
> >> >escutcheons which should be listed without a listing at all...
> >> >
> >> >-Mike Morey, SET
> >> >Sprinkler Designer
> >> >BMW Constructors, Inc.
> >> >office: 317-651-0596
> >> >mobile: 317-439-2695
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: [email protected] on behalf of Matthew J.
> >> >Willis
> >> >Sent: Fri 3/4/2011 2:55 PM
> >> >To: [email protected]
> >> >Subject: RE: Plastic Escutcheons
> >> >
> >> >Yes you can, if they are listed, and are not for recessed or flush.
> >> >Those must be listed with sprinkler as an assembly. This is going to
> >> >be food process...
> >> >R/
> >> >Matt
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Matthew J. Willis
> >> >Automatic Fire Sprinklers
> >> >Norred Fire Systems L.L.C.
> >> >318-387-1134 Voice
> >> >318-816-1087 Mobile
> >> >318-387-1163 Facsimile
> >> >[email protected]
> >> >
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >From: [email protected]
> >> >> >[mailto:sprinklerforum- [email protected]] On Behalf Of
> >> >> >Todd Williams
> >> >> >Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:53 PM
> >> >> >To: [email protected]; Charles Thurston
> >> >> >Subject: Re: Plastic Escutcheons
> >> >> >
> >> >> >What are you using them for? I don't think you can on sprinklers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >At 02:49 PM 3/4/2011, you wrote:
> >> >> >>Hello Matthew,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Have you tried Argo,  Sorry no number handy
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Friday, March 4, 2011, 2:31:53 PM, you wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I am having trouble finding ¾" style 401 plastic. Anybody know
> >> >> >> > if
> >> >> >they are
> >> >> >> > available? 2 main suppliers only have ½"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Matt
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Matthew J. Willis
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