Re: New Jersey, Pay particular attention to the last sentence (1)...........
N.J.A.C. 5:23-2.15 Construction permits-application (f) Plans, plan review, plan release: 1. Plans and specifications: The application for the permit shall be accompanied by no fewer than two copies of specifications and of plans drawn to scale, with sufficient clarity and detail dimensions to show the nature and character of the work to be performed. Plans submitted shall be required to show only such detail and include only such information as shall be necessary to demonstrate compliance with the requirements of the code and these regulations or to facilitate inspections for code conformity. When quality of materials is essential for conformity to the regulations, specific information shall be given to establish such quality; and this code shall not be cited, or the term "legal" or its equivalent be used, as a substitute for specific information. vii. Engineering details and specifications: The construction official and appropriate subcode official may require adequate details of structural, mechanical, plumbing and electrical work, including computations, stress diagrams and other essential technical data to be filed. All engineering plans and computations shall bear the seal and signature of the licensed engineer or registered architect responsible for the design. Plans for buildings shall indicate how required structural and fire-resistance rating will be maintained for penetrations made for electrical, mechanical, plumbing and communication conduits, pipes and systems. ix. Architect's or engineer's seal: The seal and signature of the registered architect or licensed engineer who prepared the plans shall be affixed to each sheet of each copy of the plans submitted and on the first or title sheet of the specifications and any additional supportive information submitted. The construction official shall waive the requirement for sealed plans in the case of a single family home owner who had prepared his or her own plans for the construction, addition, reconstruction, alteration, renovation or repair of a detached structure used or intended to be used exclusively as his or her private residence providing that the owner shall submit an affidavit attesting to the fact that he or she has personally prepared the plans and provided further that said plans are in the opinion of the construction official, and appropriate subcode official, legible and complete for purposes of ensuring compliance with the regulations. (1) All documents prepared by people other than the design professional shall be reviewed by the design professional and submitted with a letter indicating that they have been reviewed and found to be in conformance with the regulations for the design of the building. Hope that helps, John Drucker, CET Fire Protection Subcode Official Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector Fire Marshals Office Borough of Red Bank, NJ Not the official position of any agency, association, committee or otherwise. Obtain required applications, permits, inspections and approvals from Authority(s) Having Jurisdiction. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal To all; This is not a question in reference to NFPA; however a cry for help to the industry. Does anyone else run into this? We prepare shop drawings with calculations for every project, and for some projects seismic design shop drawings with calculations. Here in TN (although this scenario has happened on projects outside of TN as well) we have the standard of care, which means there are to be fire protection intent drawings created by a registered design professional as part of the original construction documents and when we complete our shop drawings/calculations that registered design professional shall review them for acceptance and stamp them. What we run into at random is what we believe is a misinterpretation of the code (IBC for instance) and it gets put into the specifications for the project; It is interpreted as our shop drawings have to be stamped AND SEALED by an engineer and this is getting applied to the seismic design specifications now as well. The fire protection contractors that do not catch this or overlook it, as we did years ago, end up having to hire (at their expense) a registered engineer so they can provide sealed drawings/calculations, even though there is one already on record for the project. Then you run into the problem of the need for the engineer to create the drawings and calculations themselves due to the fact they cannot seal anything they did not create. Now more time, coordination and costs are incurred by the fire protection contractor. We have added an exclusion in our base bid letter for the cost of providing an engineers seal on our shop drawings and calculations for a couple of years now and just revised it to exclude that same cost on seismic design and calculations, as we are seeing this requirement in specifications more frequently. It is our interpretation that each project shall have a registered design professional to set the standard for the project and that professional shall review our shop drawings and calculations for acceptance with a stamp; not a true need for a SEALED set. Every time we ask the question to the design professionals for the project they can't tell us where it came from other than this is what is required per code and will not listen to our argument/explanation. Somehow, if our interpretation is correct, we need to get this amended to be clear to all. Thank you, Bobby Gillett Sr. Project Manager Key Fire Protection, Inc. (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax (731) 267-4853 cell <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachment s/20110824/710401d4/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
