No. Maybe even worse. I remember in mid/late 70's we'd explain to the PEs what the reams of computer printouts meant (generated by the mainframe in Cleveland HQ by guys in white coats on raised floors) After we got done our explanation, they'd stamp em approved and send em back to us.
Yes, this is when fittings were threaded then a 1'-6 pce TG to a grooved coupling- I believe the cost of two 6" grooved 90's and 4 couplings was the same as 16 hours of Local 692 labor in Phila. We had 5" and 3.5", and a lot of 1-1-1.25.......still have those memorized, even above and below. Frankly, I think it more important to focus on getting sprinklers in houses rather than licensing laws. We'd save more people, create a larger market, and we have actually achieved our goals in some pockets, one of them being PA for 4 months. Whereas, are there ANY jurisdictions where FPEs specify all criteria, give us corrected flow tests for basis of calcs, on 90% or more of projects? I'll wager none on Earth except Lake Woebegone, just up the Red River from Fargo, where all the children are above average, and there's a PTA. I was told once that getting drunk drivers off the road would save more lives than all our residential sprinklers- and at 3,000 annual deaths vrs 55,000 for drunks killing us, can't say I could argue. I just kept pushing for resi sprinklers, tho. I don't own an insurance company. George L. Church, Jr., CET Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of A.P.Silva Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 12:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal Was it different before 30 years? Tony -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 321 Sent: August 29, 2011 9:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Engineers Stamp vs. Seal Welcome to the party...here in Florida we have been dealing with this stupidity for 30 years. John W. Farabee Vice President Fire Sprinkler Operations State License No. 20251600012010 1480 SW 3RD Street Suite 9 Pompano Beach, Fl 33411 954-785-7800 800-372-2770 Telephone 954-785-7804 Fax -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachment s/20110829/4f2f3c22/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
