Hello Mike,

I got the full scoop on it now. The pipe is on top of the 25' wide driveway, 
Somebody put one of those "Bolt On Speed Bumps" (it is hollow on the bottom) 
over it to protect it in that area, The rest is buried about 3"-4" in the spots 
where is is buried at all, Some of it is run on top of the ground under the 
mulch/pine straw in the flower beds.. All told it is about 90 feet in/on/over 
the ground. I'm thinking directional bore with the yellow plastic pipe they use 
for gas lines pulled into the bore.

Tuesday, September 13, 2011, 3:46:04 PM, you wrote:

> PEX is used in cased in concrete all the time in hydronic heating.
> It can handle pressure much higher than PVC or CPVC. PEX's come in
> coils so you won't have any joints underground in the 30 ft run and
> it will be there long after the building is gone. I'm not sure on
> the size however, it would be competitive in sizes 2" and smaller.
> Rehau. Uponor would be best contacts in my view.


> Mike Cabral
> Phone 636-451-0533
> Cell 314-412-1800
> e-Fax 636-438-1338

> From: Bobby Gillett <gillet...@keyfireprotection.com>
> To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:33 AM
> Subject: RE: Underground Air Line

> I was thinking a grated trench or piping in a pvc "sleeve" so it could be
> changed without disturbing the concrete again.; then you would have more
> choices for pipe material. If the concrete was poured right against the
> piping, depending on the piping, I would say this helped cut the life span
> down.

> Bobby Gillett
> Sr. Project Manager
> Key Fire Protection, Inc.
> (731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax 
> (731) 267-4853 cell
> www.keyfireprotection.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:30 AM
> To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
> Subject: Re: Underground Air Line

> How about a grated trench so that it's in a low point rather than
> underground. You could add a sump to make draining the line easier.

> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Eric Tysinger <er...@waynefire.com> wrote:

>> I would say treat it as you would underground fire lines. Either PVC,
> CPVC,
>> copper or brass. Copper or brass may need to be coated with something.
>> Pressure should be pretty low if you talking about air supply for a dry
>> system, so PVC or CPVC should be fine. I would use some kind of detection
>> tape to help protect it from being cut.


>> Thanks,
>> Eric Tysinger CET
>> NICET III - 108988
>> Designer - Fort Myers Branch
>> Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.
>> 4683 Laredo Ave.
>> Fort Myers, Florida 33905
>> p: (239)433-3030 x1240    f: (239)433-3263
>> C: (239)633-9703



>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:
>> sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Charles Thurston
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:31 AM
>> To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
>> Subject: Underground Air Line

>> Hello Sprinklerforum,

>>  We have a location where the air compressor was re-located from under the
>> building to a "Dog House" about 30 feet away across a driveway from the
> main
>> building. Long story short the pipe they put in the slot cut into the
>> driveway and refilled with cement has corroded away.  Looking for
>> recommendations as to the best pipe to put back? My customer stated they
>> wanted pipe "that will last longer than the building does".

>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Charles                          mailto:charl...@mbfsg.com



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