SFD allowed they stacked eaves on a pagoda style roof on a Buddhist temple
to be separated from the attack/wall spaces with 5/8" gypboard. The exposure
issue was negated by the setbacks.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:37 AM, George Church <[email protected]>wrote:

> Appreciate this, Cecil, since we're looking at a retrofit with existing
> mansards. I drive by the place every day, and offered to make my price
> sky-high so they'd strip the ugly things off the building!
> Along the same lines, when a combustible overhang is to be protected if
> over 48" wide, does that include the additional width of a noncombustible
> rain gutter? DOH is involved, FWIW.
>
> George L.  Church, Jr., CET
> Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
> PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Sprinkler Academy -
> C Bilbo
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:27 AM
> To: FORUM
> Subject: RE: Mansards - NFPA 13
>
>
> We put allowances in the 2010 edition.  But you gotta meet the four
> criteria found after the following paragraph.
>
> Let us know if your mansard meets the requirements.
>
>
>
> 8.15.1.2.18 Sprinklers shall be permitted to be omitted from within
> combustible soffits, eaves, overhangs, and decorative frame elements that
> are constructed in accordance with
> 8.15.1.2.18.1 through 8.15.1.2.18.4.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It should be recognized that the above is my opinion as a member of the
> NFPA, and has not been processed as a formal interpretation in accordance
> with the NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore
> not be considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the the
> AFSA, NFSA, NFPA, nor any of their technical committees.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Cecil Bilbo
> Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology
> Champaign, IL
> 217.607.0325
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> > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:32:43 -0400
> > To: [email protected]
> > From: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Mansards - NFPA 13
> >
> > I have had them fill the mansards with insulation because they can
> present an exposure problem. Have him cover all of the spaces or use fire
> treated lumber. There is nothing in NFPA 13 which allows for omission of
> small spaces.
> >
> >
> > At 06:59 AM 10/21/2011, you wrote:
> > >Is there anything in NFPA that allows omission of sprinklers in
> combustible mansards or similar features built on the outside of a building?
> I have a project in which these decorative features are being built on the
> roof to hide mechanicals and at the top floor along the outside wall to give
> a "castle tower" effect. No mechanicals inside, just dead space separated
> from the main building by either a wall or a roof. I have told the GC to
> fill them with non-combustible insulation but there is a cornice that that
> is 2ftx2ft (actually ½ because it looks like a triangle) that will be framed
> with 2X6 16in OC that will look like a ledge for the windows. He is asking
> if it also needs insulation. My gut feeling is no because it is such a small
> area.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Dewayne Martinez
> > >
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