SFD allowed they stacked eaves on a pagoda style roof on a Buddhist temple to be separated from the attack/wall spaces with 5/8" gypboard. The exposure issue was negated by the setbacks.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:37 AM, George Church <[email protected]>wrote: > Appreciate this, Cecil, since we're looking at a retrofit with existing > mansards. I drive by the place every day, and offered to make my price > sky-high so they'd strip the ugly things off the building! > Along the same lines, when a combustible overhang is to be protected if > over 48" wide, does that include the additional width of a noncombustible > rain gutter? DOH is involved, FWIW. > > George L. Church, Jr., CET > Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. > PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 > 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Sprinkler Academy - > C Bilbo > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:27 AM > To: FORUM > Subject: RE: Mansards - NFPA 13 > > > We put allowances in the 2010 edition. But you gotta meet the four > criteria found after the following paragraph. > > Let us know if your mansard meets the requirements. > > > > 8.15.1.2.18 Sprinklers shall be permitted to be omitted from within > combustible soffits, eaves, overhangs, and decorative frame elements that > are constructed in accordance with > 8.15.1.2.18.1 through 8.15.1.2.18.4. > > > > > > > It should be recognized that the above is my opinion as a member of the > NFPA, and has not been processed as a formal interpretation in accordance > with the NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore > not be considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the the > AFSA, NFSA, NFPA, nor any of their technical committees. > > Sincerely, > > > Cecil Bilbo > Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology > Champaign, IL > 217.607.0325 > www.sprinkleracademy.com<http://www.sprinkleracademy.com> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:32:43 -0400 > > To: [email protected] > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Mansards - NFPA 13 > > > > I have had them fill the mansards with insulation because they can > present an exposure problem. Have him cover all of the spaces or use fire > treated lumber. There is nothing in NFPA 13 which allows for omission of > small spaces. > > > > > > At 06:59 AM 10/21/2011, you wrote: > > >Is there anything in NFPA that allows omission of sprinklers in > combustible mansards or similar features built on the outside of a building? > I have a project in which these decorative features are being built on the > roof to hide mechanicals and at the top floor along the outside wall to give > a "castle tower" effect. No mechanicals inside, just dead space separated > from the main building by either a wall or a roof. I have told the GC to > fill them with non-combustible insulation but there is a cornice that that > is 2ftx2ft (actually ½ because it looks like a triangle) that will be framed > with 2X6 16in OC that will look like a ledge for the windows. He is asking > if it also needs insulation. My gut feeling is no because it is such a small > area. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > >Dewayne Martinez > > > > > >Design Build Fire Protection > > > > > >262-781-7900 (w) > > > > > >262-781-8401 (f) > > > > > >414-349-0468 (cell) > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > >scrubbed... > > >URL: > > ><http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/att > > >achments/20111021/831e38d2/attachment.html> > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > > >[email protected] > > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > Todd G. 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