As a NICET technician I know when to ask for help. Hence the post on the forum. I have designed similar systems but not for crude oil.
Thank You Robert Thompson Certified Engineering Technologist Dakota Fire Protection 1710 North Washington Street Grand Forks, ND 58203 Phone: 701-772-8820 Fax: 701-772-7932 Email: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Art Tiroly Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 1:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Good one for a Friday If the materials are known and the protection requirements are clear in NFPA standards I would be comfortable designing and specifying the system. I do have a different background than most NICET designers but I'm not a PE just M SFPE and HPR guy. Arthur Tiroly ATCO Fire Protection Design Tiroly and Associates 24400 Highland Rd rm 25, CLE 44143 216-621-8899 216-570-7030 Cell WWW.ATCOfirepro.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Hewitt, PE Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 1:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Good one for a Friday Should a NICET technician be determining this design criteria? Jeff Hewitt, PE, SET | Corporate Engineer NICET #102015 | Water Based Layout - Level IV Inspection Testing & Maintenance - Level III 241 Hughes Lane | St. Charles, MO 63301 Office 636-946-0011 | Fax 636-946-5172 Cell 314-574-6989 | www.bistatefire.com Fire sprinklers save lives. Can you live without them? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Davidson Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Good one for a Friday Robert, Before we can answer you need to find out type of crude, some crude oil can be considered extremely toxic because of trapped gases within the crude, other crude can be extremely light with light hydrocarbon components, someone (EOR of owner) needs to tell you what the products is and I would start with Foam or AFFF systems not water. Before you start design have the owner's EOR get the details to you so you can make an informed decision on the design of the system. Also reminder to document what you find and how you developed you design criteria and have the owner and his EOR sign off on it. Have a fire safe Holiday season!! Regards Jim Jim Davidson Davidson Associates Fire Protection * Medical Gas * Code Consulting 302-994-9500 Fax:302-234-1781 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Thompson Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:15 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Good one for a Friday Indoor rail car loading of crude oil. design dry system water only .3/6000 sqft at deck and under obstructions. 100 sqft spacing of 11.2k sprinklers. Right track or way off. Don't see everyday but may in future. Thank You Robert Thompson Certified Engineering Technologist Dakota Fire Protection 1710 North Washington Street Grand Forks, ND 58203 Phone: 701-772-8820 Fax: 701-772-7932 Email: [email protected] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachment s/20111209/a526975d/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
