Hello Jamie.seidl,

I have used it for underground in 13R, Too bad I have a customer with 200 feet 
of 3" sitting in a barn on his property going bad from exposure due to him not 
building the other 4 cabins it was to feed.

Monday, July 30, 2012, 11:16:16 PM, you wrote:

> I believe blaze master is listed for UG, too bad 3" is special
> order... If you've got the time Greg, CPVC is probably the easiest way to go.

> Jamie
> Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:12 PM, Ron Greenman <[email protected]> wrote:

>> If you follow the gas piping rules you'd use coated black steel, threaded,
>> with 10 mil (maybe more, I don't recall without a book to reference)
>> wrapping around the fittings, then tarred (again I think). Or, special
>> dispensation from your local Pope, and use Blazemaster while underground.
>> Comes in 3" (I believe that's what you'd said you were planning to use, is
>> not under any threat from fire underground, doesn't corrode, and flows
>> better. The kicker is not being listed for the purpose though I'd bet only
>> because it hasn't been tested for this application.

>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Mark Sornsin <[email protected]>wrote:

>>> Greg:

>>> NFPA 13 forbids steel pipe underground, with the exception of 'dry' FDC
>>> piping. In that case you are allowed to use galvanized. Don't recall all of
>>> the specifics (like if wrapping is required).  But to your point the
>>> problem is corrosion - the galvanizing doe, then tsn't help much
>>> underground.  However, I don't know why a properly wrapped pipe couldn't do
>>> just fine underground.  Except that 'properly wrapped' may be too difficult
>>> to achieve...? There may be too much risk of an Achilles heel in the form
>>> of an unprotected surface somewhere along the run.

>>> So how about cut-grooved ductile iron instead?

>>> Mark A. Sornsin, PE| Fire Protection Engineer
>>> Ulteig Engineers, Inc.| Fargo, ND
>>> [email protected]

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Gregory Lindholm
>>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 3:10 PM
>>> To: SprinklerFORUM
>>> Subject: Galvanized underground main


>>> I think I have seen this before, but could not find it.

>>> We need to run a wet main underground from one building to another. They
>>> are about 15' apart. The main will be 7' deep to get below frost. We plan
>>> to run 3" galv. sch. 40 with galv. grooved fittings. There will only be 2
>>> ell & 4 couplings underground, and plan to wrap it with what the plumber
>>> use to wrap underground.

>>> Is there anything wrong with this idea, either code or common sense?

>>> Greg Lindholm
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