and fire detection system in those areas where sprinklers are permitted to be omitted. IBC/IFC 903.3.3.1. Always keep in mind that generally the building must also comply with the IBC in other regards, ie synergy. John Drucker - Mobile Email
----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Thu Mar 21 07:18:54 2013 Subject: Re: Racquet Ball Court I believe Scot has a legitimate point here with the exception that there is already precedence in one or more of the Model Codes for the omission of sprinklers in these facilities. I recall that there are several qualifications required, that the sport venue be located on the ground floor with proper exits to outside, and the building be of Type III (non-combustable) construction. So possible the solutions should consider removal of the sprinklers. Mark at Aero ----- Original Message ----- From: å... .... [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 09:36 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Racquet Ball Court How about getting stakeholders to consider whether NO sprinklers will be installed in the racquetball court based on the 1. low, if not insubstantial, fire loading in these rooms, 2. low frequency of fire ignition in these rooms? Prescriptions are prescriptions, and only on extenuating and justifiable circumstances are we allowed to invoke common sense to make an intervention. Someone, somewhere in the ladder of command, is paid good money for making decisions; should we not ask them (all of them) to quantify items # 1. and # 2? By putting numbers on them (these two items), we may evaluate our judgment as to "the need to sprinkler inside racquetball courts." Is asking to evaluate a life safety judgment too controversial, too critical and perceived as too personal of a nature? Is asking to evaluate a decision too much a cost imposition on a salaried vocation? The end goal, is to provide better service to the public and users of these courts through reasonable and appropriate judgment, with a collateral benefit of benefiting future judgment through the examination of details in the current and past decisions. It seems to be, that presently, fires starting from inside a racquetball court have more import than fires starting in, say...many of the homes and dwellings where we sleep. Realizing that we in design & installation are but one of the last links in the chain-of-events occurring when a decision is made to include fire sprinklers, we might still pause to consider whether those making the first links would do better to offer the numbers behind their "good judgment", and state how, where and whether they come together to decide their Go/No-Go decision. Scot Deal Excelsior Fire/Risk Engineering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachments/20130321/04fcea8d/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY: This email message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, nor is it, unless specifically stated, intended to be relied upon by any person or persons other than the individual or entity named above and no warranties or representations are made or intended to persons or entities not named above. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone, return this message to the address above and delete all copies. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachments/20130321/270c4c4f/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
