My favorite was that drawing in the amendments showing a dry pendent installed at a 45 to protect loading docks long after dry sidewalls became available. Did anyone require the saw and core guys to drill the hole that way in the last twenty years? And I'm sure the property managers always liked that little bit of concrete that breaks out when hole is drilled at angle.
bv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Huggins" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:14:24 AM Subject: Re: Underground Stub-Up So you would not follow 13 on the items Chris identified or use sidewall sprinklers under overhead doors, spray sprinklers in water heater closets within dwelling units (despite no residential sprinkler is available at the required temperature rating) to identify a few more? I don't think anyone is going to change their position on this issue and agree a REASONABLE dose of conservatism is a good thing but when one lives in the middle of a mountain range and another living soul isn't within miles but they still think they are being watched, they really are just paranoid. Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives Dallas, TX http://www.firesprinkler.org On Jul 10, 2013, at 5:04 PM, "Cahill, Christopher" <[email protected]> wrote: > You are certainly entitled to disagree. But what about the plastic in OH > rooms, deck sprinklers (typically not smooth) and backflow preventers? Aren't > these the same issue some have raised? > > Chris Cahill, PE* > Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation & Facilities Group > Burns & McDonnell > 8201 Norman Center Drive > Bloomington, MN 55437 > Phone: 952.656.3652 > Fax: 952.229.2923 > [email protected] > www.burnsmcd.com > > Proud to be one of FORTUNE's 100 Best Companies to Work For > *Registered in: MN > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron > Greenman > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Underground Stub-Up > > I can't buy code trumps listing if the listing is more restrictive than the > code. Who supports my simple prescriptive design if the installation meets > code and was approved but fails because the listing says no. I know the > manufacturer will disavow all knowledge. The code official will scurry and > hide in hos hidey hole. And my insurer will side with whoever says I did > something wrong. > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
