Gentlemen, We had a similar gauge situation on a system installed before my tenure. Bottom line a notice of violation was generated citing NFPA-13 since these are not maintenance items but rather installation items in violation of the adopted standard at the time of installation. The owner corrected and the system re inspected, matter closed. John Drucker - Mobile Email
----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sat Dec 07 11:08:22 2013 Subject: RE: Main Drain Inspection Test Ditto!!! If you cannot perform the inspection correctly because the original was not installed right, then get out your "other" pad and write up a work order to fix it. It is up to the owner to decide what to do from here. I know this is hard to grasp...we are just a bunch of mechanics looking at the same car wanting to fix stuff that the last guy did, right or wrong. If you want to stay true to the scope, fill out the inspection forms, make your recommendations and wait by the phone for the owner to call... Steven Scandaliato, SET CFPS 520.971.2322 Cell Skype: steven.scandaliato -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott A Futrell Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 8:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Main Drain Inspection Test But, if you are doing an inspection in accordance with NFPA 25, and according to that document and the Technical Committee it assumes the original installation to be correct, you shouldn't comment on the incorrect location of the gauge because that is not in your scope. Just record the pressures and move on... Scott Futrell (763) 425-1001 x12 Office (612) 759-5556 Cell -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rongreenman . Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 8:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Main Drain Inspection Test "The installing contractor told the owner: the pressure gauge is installed in the wrong place and the system is fine." The manufacturer told the buyer: the brakes were installed in the wrong place but the car is fine. The banker told the customer: the investments were posted in the wrong place but the his money is fine. The farmer told the consumer: the poisons were used in the wrong place but the food is fine. The doctor told the patient: the pacemaker was installed in the wrong place but he is fine. "It's alright M'am. We're musicians." On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor < [email protected]> wrote: > I recently inspected a wet sprinkler system. > It was installed in 1997 and had not been inspected or tested since > installation. > I conducted a main drain test. > The residual pressure was 30 psi. Static 75. > According to the hydraulic calc plaque, the residual should be 60. > The gauge was downstream of the main drain, approx 80 feet of pipe > downstream. > > I sent a Notice of Impairment to the owner and requested a copy of the > Contractors Test Cert to use as a benchmark. > The installing contractor told the owner: the pressure gauge is > installed in the wrong place and the system is fine. > > Any thoughts? > > > Forest Wilson > Fire Sprinkler Contractor > 937-736-0425 > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY: This email message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, nor is it, unless specifically stated, intended to be relied upon by any person or persons other than the individual or entity named above and no warranties or representations are made or intended to persons or entities not named above. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone, return this message to the address above and delete all copies. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
