If I remember right from my years with Star, (1987 - 1993) retard chambers were 
verboten in Canada. There was actually a Canada trim package available for the 
alarm valves.

Richard L. Mote
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
7994 Route 522, Suite 1
PO Box 407
Middleburg, PA 17842
P 570-837-7647
F 570-837-6335

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David 
Sornsin
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: jockey pump only

My guess: They're using more alarm valves with retard chambers up their?

Dave Sornsin

On Friday, January 31, 2014, Cahill, Christopher <[email protected]>
wrote:

> OK, now I'm intrigued.  What's different in the Dominion of Canada? 
> (NFPA
> 24 reference)
>
> Chris Cahill, PE*
> Associate Fire Protection Engineer
> Burns & McDonnell
> 8201 Norman Center Drive
> Bloomington, MN 55437
> Phone:  952.656.3652
> Fax:  952.229.2923
> [email protected] <javascript:;>
> www.burnsmcd.com
>
> Proud to be one of FORTUNE's 100 Best Companies to Work For 
> *Registered in: MN
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jamey 
> Prentice
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 11:31 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: jockey pump only
>
> Still use them all the time in Canada, usually Albany 1/3 HP with an 
> automatic maintenance switch. I have not seen a retard chamber here in 
> Over
> 15 years
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
> From: Richard Mote
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:14 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Reply To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: jockey pump only
>
>
> They may still be used in Canada, a search turns up adds for several, 
> but all the companies are Canadian.
>
> Richard L. Mote
> Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
> 7994 Route 522, Suite 1
> PO Box 407
> Middleburg, PA 17842
> P 570-837-7647
> F 570-837-6335
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt 
> Grise
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:10 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: jockey pump only
>
> I did not have any major issues with it -it was just the first one I 
> have seen. I thought I would check in with the forum and see if it was 
> something that should raise a red flag.
>
> Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II
> Sales Engineer
> Alliance Fire Protection
> 130 w 9th Ave.
> North Kansas City, MO 64116
>
> *Licensed in KS & MO
>
> 913.888.0647 ph
> 913.888.0618 f
> 913.927.0222 cell
> www. AFPsprink.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Cahill, 
> Christopher
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 11:03 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: jockey pump only
>
> More popular back in the '60's.  I've seen a bunch.  I don't think 
> there are any codes that address.  What were you thinking would be 
> issues to regulate?  Certainly never required.  Nothing prohibiting.  
> No size requirements.  On the right side of the BFP I suppose.
>
> Chris Cahill, PE*
> Associate Fire Protection Engineer
> Burns & McDonnell
> 8201 Norman Center Drive
> Bloomington, MN 55437
> Phone:  952.656.3652
> Fax:  952.229.2923
> [email protected]
> www.burnsmcd.com
>
> Proud to be one of FORTUNE's 100 Best Companies to Work For 
> *Registered
> in: MN
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt 
> Grise
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 10:57 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: jockey pump only
>
> I ran across a system where the owner has elected to use a small pump 
> to pressurize the system in order to prevent municipal water surges 
> from causing false trips on the flow switch. Has anyone seen this 
> before? Are there any codes that address something like this?
>
> (not something that we installed, or specified... just found it this 
> way)
>
> Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II
>


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David M. Sornsin
Fire Protection Design & Consulting
Fargo & Bismarck ND
701.371.0643
[email protected]
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