It shouldn't be a problem for anyone. We have a clause in our standard form contract that conditions our scope and fee proposal on availability of background files for whatever platform (AutoCad/Revit) is required. We also list the disciplines req'd, to be sure we get structural and duct plans too. And if they can't/won't provide, the proposal is subject to withdrawal or reconsideration. For retrofit and modifications, we offer three prices on some projects: CAD as-builts available; only hard copy as-builts available; no as-builts available. Makes negotiations easier ...
SL -------- Original message -------- From: "rongreenman ." <[email protected]> Date:03/03/2014 1:19 PM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Redrawing Cadd Backgrounds Craig, You misunderstood. Not a problem for me. I just see it looming on the horizon when it's not just a sub trying to deal with his particular set of drawings, but there's a commissioning agent tearing his hair because the documentation won't synchronize properly, because someone is holdiing put somewhere. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:15 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Ron, > > What BIM Program are they using that they won't supply you with > backgrounds? > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection Group Lead > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > Spartanburg, SC 29303 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > CH2MHILL Extension 74102 > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of rongreenman . > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Redrawing Cadd Backgrounds > > Can't wait until you guys have to work with a BIM plan that they won't > give you electronic files for. The comments should be interesting. > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Roland Huggins > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > maybe they submitted one plan and intend to build to a different set. > > > > > > Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering > > American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives > > Dallas, TX > > http://www.firesprinkler.org > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 3, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Brian Harris <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > No, we stay away from them just because they're such a PITA.... It's > > > a > > big chain grocery store here in the south, I think they're scared I'll > > use they're plans and open my own store... > > > > > > Brian Harris, CET > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > > er.org > > > > > > -- > Ron Greenman > Instructor > Fire Protection Engineering Technology > Bates Technical College > 1101 So. Yakima Ave. > Tacoma, WA 98405 > > [email protected] > > http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ > > 253.680.7346 > 253.576.9700 (cell) > > Member: > ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC > > They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis > Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) > > A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, > inventor and engineer (1876-1958) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, inventor and engineer (1876-1958) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
