You might try this

http://www.nfpa.org/newsandpublications/nfpa-journal/2012/july-august-2012/the-experts/heads-up

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Roisum, C.E.T.
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Clouds

http://www.nfpa.org/~/media/Files/Research/Research%20Foundation/Research%20Foundation%20reports/RFCloudCeilings.pdf


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rongreenman .
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Clouds

Have we figured anything out yet? I got asked today: What if you have a 
non-combustable structure with clouds 16" below the ceiling? Can you just have 
everything drop down under the clouds? Well, uh...yes, but maybe not, well..., 
I don't know for sure. Maybe use obstruction rules...? But, for discharge or 
heat collection? Probably both, but what the hell is a cloud in the book? So 
what do you guys think. Or better yet, what does the book say and where? And 
how did you arrive at that conclusion?

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