I would recommend you check with the local fire authority having jurisdiction 
regarding any reductions. The Building Code permits closely spaced sprinklers 
with a draft curtain in lieu of a fire-rated shaft to protect vertical 
openings. Since it's used as an exception, I would not think the local AHJ 
would allow reductions in your design. Just something to think about ...

Galen Taylor
County of Los Angeles Fire Department
Fire Prevention Engineering
323-890-4339
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland 
Huggins
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: quick response area reduction with vertical openings

I would say yes and no.  It all depends on your selection of a design basis.  
The area below the opening has a tall ceiling so that PORTION of the building 
has a design basis that is not reduced.  The remainder of the building can use 
its own design basis that includes the reduction or follow the other.  
Naturally we are assuming the entire building is a single occupancy hazard 
classification.

Roland

Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
Dallas, TX
http://www.firesprinkler.org





On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Matt Grise <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am looking at a building that has 12' ceilings (per floor). In one area 
> there is a vertical opening to the second floor that is protected with 
> closely spaced sprinklers and draft stops. Is it still acceptable to use the 
> quick response area reduction or does the opening to the second floor count 
> as a ceiling in excess of 20'?
> 
> If it is acceptable to use the quick response reduction, can you apply the 
> reduction to the length of closely spaced sprinkler heads that must be calc'd?
> 
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