A maximum realistic manual hand line flow is 350 GPM. There are some that have 
proven empirically that 500 can be flowed, that is not realistic to the 
ordinary operator of an engine and the folks on the nozzle. It works in a more 
controlled environment, but not the typical fire ground. 

The "typical" fog nozzle is 250 GPM at 100 psi and with the modern advances in 
hose technology and materials the old friction losses are a bit less than the 
old cotton jacket days. The 1 1/8" tip solid stream is 262 GPM at 50 PSI. The 
real world is plus/minus 10-15% on most hydraulics on the fire ground when you 
factor in gauge accuracy, actual friction losses, elevation changes and nozzle. 

If the hose is connected to a master stream, the flow is directly proportional 
to the length but you could be around 600 GPM max on a 2 1/2" line at 100 feet. 

Best Regards,

Tim 

Tim Frankenberg, CT, CFPS
Fire Product Manager
Potter Electric Signal Company, LLC
5757 Phantom Drive, Ste. 125
Hazelwood, MO 63042-2429
800-325-3936

www.pottersignal.com



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Wellen
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: actual hose flow

Like Steve said, it depends.

Here is a brochure link that may help.  
http://www.elkhartbrass.com/files/aa/downloads/catalog/catalog-f2-01-08.pdf

There's 2.5 in. hose and there are 2.5 in. couplings with 3 in. hose.  All 
kinds of nozzles from adjustable to smooth bore tips from 1/2 in. to 2 in.  The 
hose and hose monitors we carried had both adjustable nozzles and stackable 
smooth bore tips.  Then the pump operator may use preset pressures or manual 
throttles.

It depends on the fire and yes, it's a wrestling match and not a one man job 
unless it is the ground monitor.


Tom


On Apr 3, 2014, at 11:20 AM, "Steve Leyton" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Obviously, there are countless situational variables, but I have been 
> told anecdotally that a 2 1/2" line when used on attack can be used
> anywhere in the range of 150-400 gpm.   At the high end, it's a
> wrestling match and only used for outside streams.
> 
> SL
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Todd - Work
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: actual hose flow
> 
> I know we assume a 250 gpm flow for a single fire hose. What is the 
> actual amount of water that is discharged from a 2-1/2" fire hose in a 
> fire situation?
> 
> Todd G Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
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