You have all been echoing what has been going through my head. This sounds like 
a good job for my competition.

Todd G Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
www.fpdc.com
860-535-2080 (ofc)

> On Apr 8, 2014, at 11:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> If it is not required by code, but you still need to submit to someone for 
> approval, you can pursue the alternative means and methods as an approach for 
> acceptance. However, in the design documents it needs to be clearly defined 
> what the exact purpose and function of the system will be.  
> 
> We've had special systems requested by owner's loss prevention groups but 
> since they did not comply with recognized Codes and Standards, they were not 
> identified as a fire suppression or fire control systems and with that in 
> mind they were also not constrained to meet any requirements within those 
> codes or standards.  Call it a tank cooling spray system or whatever you wish 
> but due to the non-compliance to NFPA 15, don't call it anything that would 
> give an impression that it's for anything other than your intended purpose.   
> All parties involved need to understand the limitations and function and sign 
> off on the concept.  Also don't put any notes about installing per NFPA 15 or 
> NFPA 13, as that can lead to confusion on the intent.
> 
> Remember, all you're doing here is cooling, not suppression.  Once you have 
> ignition it's just a controlled burn from there on out.  
> 
> Craig L. Prahl, CET   
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd - 
> Work
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 10:22 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: non required system
> 
> I have been asked to look at a new installation of 2 propane tanks at a small 
> distribution facility. The size of the tanks is such that they do not require 
> any protection by Code. However, the local Fire Marshal would like a water 
> spray system. The owner has agreed to install it. However, there is no public 
> water supply at this facility and what the Fire Marshal would like is a 
> system connected to an FDC several hundred feet away. This would not be 
> acceptable per NFPA 15 which requires an automatic water supply. That being 
> said, it does have merit in that it would allow the fire department to get 
> water on a fire in a potentially volatile situation from a relatively safe 
> distance. Any thoughts on the best way to proceed with this? I'm thinking get 
> a variance from the State Fire Marshal and go ahead with it, but have some 
> reservations about doing non conforming systems.
> 
> Todd G Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
> www.fpdc.com
> 860-535-2080 (ofc)
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