I was just talking to my colleague next door, the civil engineering
instructor, about this, mostly about my earlier comment of if not being a
good idea to start things off with I was thinking, and he brought up the
soil properties versus pressures from the weight. I think the possibility
of ground water and floating tanks came up also


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Martinez, Dewayne <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for all the input guys.  I talked to the GC and found out that I
> need to provide him with the PSF needed from the tank manufacture and he
> will pass this along to the civil engineer to verify that the soil can
> support the load.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Todd Williams
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 4:06 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Tank installation - NFPA 22 - 03 ed
>
> Well said
>
> Todd G Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
> 860-535-2080
> www.fpdc.com
>
>
> > On Jun 13, 2014, at 12:50 AM, "rongreenman ." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > You need a civil for a septic tank out here. Fire and crap have to be
> > at least equally dangerous.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Martinez, Dewayne <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> At my past companies there was never a civil involved besides telling
>
> >> us the general area to locate the tanks.
> >> Is it really that complicated?  Basically they are burring a couple
> >> of concrete septic tanks and pitching the pipe down to the inlet at
> >> the building.  I was never really too involved in the whole digging
> >> process.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Sprinklerforum
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> >> rongreenman .
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:14 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Tank installation - NFPA 22 - 03 ed
> >>
> >> DeWayne,
> >>
> >> There must be a civil involved. You might want to consult. This not
> >> the type of conversation to start with, "... I was thinking...."
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Martinez, Dewayne <
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> We have to have 2 - 8000gal concrete suction tanks installed below
> >>> grade and the GC was asking me how far apart to put the tanks and
> >>> what
> >>
> >>> kind of foundation will they need.  The tanks will be side by side
> >>> and
> >>
> >>> I was thinking having them about 2ft apart, any suggestions?  It
> >>> looks
> >>
> >>> like from CH 11 that I would need a compacted base with 3in of sand
> >>> cushion on top for the tank foundation.  It does not appear that the
>
> >>> tanks will need to be anchored.  Everything look good so far?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dewayne
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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