Yes, for my specific storage height, building height, nonexpanded group a in racks and also expanded, cartoned, in piles, and idle wood pallets. Trying to protect all of those through all the applicable Tables, yes. Palletized and solid pile exposed unexpanded and cartoned exposed table 15.3.1 really starts limiting you for the rest of the hazards. Scott (763) 425-1001x12 Office (612) 759-5556 Cell
-----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 4:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CMSA Sprinkler Question Your Table in NFPA 13 only gives you one sprinkler selection, a 16.8K? Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29303 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott A Futrell Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 5:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CMSA Sprinkler Question Craig, I don't see the "whole lot more" of CMSA you are referring to. I am tied to the K16.8 because of storage height, storage configuration, expanded and non-expanded group A plastics, and idle wood pallets. My alternate is 0.65/2500, and I was trying to avoid that. The Victaulic below is not CMSA so that doesn't help. I have been unable to get to Victaulic's website today. Every attempt ends up at a Victaulic China website and wants me to translate. I see the Victaulic 25.2 ESFR refers to a 16.8 CMSA, but I haven't found it on the Chinese website yet! A "CMSA" search on the Reliable website only comes up with the N252 I listed below, not a 16.8 CMSA. Scott (763) 425-1001x12 Office (612) 759-5556 Cell -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 3:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CMSA Sprinkler Question Victaulic lists a 16.8 ESFR Reliable list a 16.8 CMSA There are whole lot more CMSA sprinklers than just three if you're looking cross the different K-factors. The internet is a wonderful tool for doing searches on information like this. ;) Are you tied to a 16.8 for any reason? Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29303 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott A Futrell Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 4:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: FW: CMSA Sprinkler Question Okay. Thanks John D. for pointing out that I wrote, "...the two below" and then listed three. Let me try again. I need a CMSA K16.8 sprinkler to meet specific criteria in NFPA 13, 2013, for a design project I am specifying. Is Tyco the only manufacturer of a CMSA K16.8 sprinkler? If not, who else has one? Thanks and thanks John! Scott (763) 425-1001x12 Office (612) 759-5556 Cell -----Original Message----- From: Scott A Futrell Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:13 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: CMSA Sprinkler Question Forumites: I need a CMSA K16.8 sprinkler to meet specific criteria in NFPA 13, 2013. Are the only CMSA sprinklers available the two below? Reliable, N252 EC - CMSA, RA0842 Tyco, Ultra K-17-231, TY7153 Viking, K19.6, VK592 Thanks! Scott Futrell (763) 425-1001x12 Office (612) 759-5556 Cell _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
