I'm sure most of you know to back off the wrench a smidgen (scientific 
measurement) after fully opening a valve. 

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> On Nov 25, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Art Tiroly <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The operating rod won't turn the gate valve? Last time someone jammed the
> valve open. If you dump oil down the PIV for lubrication it may allow it the
> valve to free up. Use a bigger wrench with longer handle.
> 
> 
> Art Tiroly
> ATCO Fire Protection/Tiroly
> 24400 Highland Rd CLE 44143
> 216-621-8899
> 216-570-7030 cell
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 9:25 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Frozen open PIV
> 
> Good question. 
> Yes we did and we pulled the top off the post as well to verify it was a
> valve issue and not the post. It also was completely covered in ivy leading
> us to believe it had not been exercised for many years despite inspection
> tags. W
> 
> Jeff
> JB Fire Protection
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2014, at 18:13, <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Did you check to see if it is a left hand valve? I've run into this in the
> past. 
>> 
>> Mark at Aero
>> 602 820-7894
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2014, at 6:08 PM, "Jeff Bridges" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We have a Post indicator valve that controls a single interior riser.
>>> 
>>> We discovered during routine testing the PIV is frozen.
>>> 
>>> The sign indicates it's in the open position and main drain test 
>>> shows no abnormalities from previous inspections.
>>> 
>>> We proposed replacing the PIV and valve- another company proposed 
>>> yanking the post, leaving the valve and simply adding a BFV on the riser.
>>> 
>>> Acceptable alternative?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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