Nicely spelled out for many but it depends on how you define IS.

We added to the Annex that modifications include extending a NEW area of the 
building with a new PORTION for the existing system. If the system area were 
exceeded so that it required an individual system riser then the bigger K 
factor would be required.  As such, most would interpret modifying for new 
contest to fall within this arena.

As a side point smaller area of coverage is also mediocre protection for high 
density challenges.  That extra row of in-racks is a big step forward.


Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
Dallas, TX
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> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:06 PM, James Crawford <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Roland
> 
> Existing heads are spaced at 72 sq.ft. so end head pressure is 33.5 psi, but 
> we are also looking at adding one more row of in-racks to reduce the ceiling 
> demand to 0.30/2000 to further reduce the end head pressure.
> 
> If there are grey areas we normally discuss with the AHJ, but I thought it 
> was spelled out nicely in NFPA #13.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> 
> James Crawford
> Phaser Fire Protection Ltd.
> Phone  604-888-0318
> Fax 604-888-4732
> Cel 604-790-0938
> Email  [email protected]
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Roland Huggins
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 1:24 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Existing sprinklers
> 
> The 65 psi end head pressure is a bitter pill but NFPA 13 allows them to be 
> retained for modifications to existing systems.  That clause is part of the 
> current standard so bringing the system up to current standards does not 
> exclude it’s application.  Mediocre fire protection at best but allowed.  A 
> discussion with the AHJ at the BEGINNING beats a fight after the fact since 
> interpretation enters the fray.
> 
> Roland
> 
> 
> Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
> American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
> Dallas, TX
> http://www.firesprinkler.org <http://www.firesprinkler.org/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:41 PM, James Crawford <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> This is a sprinkler system that was designed to have in-rack sprinklers 
>> installed at a future date if required, and for this tenant we were planning 
>> on installing two levels of in-racks with a ceiling density of 0.45, this is 
>> what is currently in this building.
>> 
>> I see no need to change the roof system heads if they work.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> 
>> James Crawford
> 
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