The legal requirements and opinions that count are based in/on the 
jurisdiction(s) controlling the project.  However, it may benefit you to see an 
example of a state engineering licensing board opinion such as these from 
Alabama seen at:

http://www.bels.alabama.gov/pdf/opinions/Fire%20Protection%20Letter%20&%20Statement.pdf

http://www.bels.alabama.gov/pdf/rulings/2009-Direct%20Control%20&%20Supervision.pdf


Other national level links of interest that may influence the State positions 
are seen at:

http://www.nspe.org/resources/issues-and-advocacy/take-action/position-statements/sfpenspenicet-joint-position-engineer

http://www.nspe.org/sites/default/files/resources/GR%20downloadables/SFPE%20NSPE%20NICET%20Joint%20Position.pdf





Respectfully,

David Blackwell 

David Blackwell, P.E.
Chief Engineer
(803)896-9833
http://scfiremarshal.llronline.com/EngServices/index.asp?file=main.htm

Office of State Fire Marshal
141 Monticello Trail | Columbia, SC 29203
http://scfiremarshal.llronline.com/
(803)896-9800


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> On Jan 18, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Roland Huggins <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> What Steve said.  I have checked with a couple of states on this issue 
> particularly on their definition of control by the PE over the drawings (a 
> necessity for stamping).  I would assume NY is the same in the Board defining 
> the who and what can be stated but NOT The when its required (which is a code 
> thing).
>
> I started this review because a good while back many government jobs required 
> the contractor to have a PE seal their drawings.  This was a violation for 
> the PE in most states.  Their Board defined control has having both the PE 
> and the technician drawing the plans to be employed by the same company.  
> This lead to some gyrations whereby the PE can review the work of others and 
> not STAMP them but place a letter of review (or something to that effect) on 
> the plans.
>
> Roland
>
>
> Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
> American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
> Dallas, TX
> http://www.firesprinkler.org <http://www.firesprinkler.org/>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Jan 18, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Steve Leyton <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Obviously, none of us can speak for how all states with engineering 
>> licensure would handle this, but I think most states have a board or 
>> department that is responsible for the certification, registration and 
>> discipline of professional engineers.  Here in CA, the state Consumer 
>> Affairs Dept. has a Board for Professional Engineers, Land Surveyors and 
>> Geologists.    They maintain all the rules and reg's, including a Code of 
>> Conduct.    It's in this departments policies that the extent of work is 
>> defined for engineers by discipline.   Here in CA, I believe that a set of 
>> sprinkler plans can be done by or under the direct  supervision of an FPE, 
>> ME or CE.
>>
>> Steve
>
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