Why do you need to demonstrate the flow rate? The purpose of the forward
flow test is to fully operate the back flow valve. A flow at 500 GPM will
not open the valve fully?

On Jul 14, 2016 9:52 AM, "David Williams" <david.willi...@lhbcorp.com>
wrote:

> As an engineer who just issued a design with such a test header (COE
> project where they “suggested” we look at this provision in the design). My
> view is that the FDC is fine for project with less than 500 gpm flow
> requirements. If over that (and in my case the flow was 1100 gpm), then we
> need a test header so we can properly demonstrate the flow rate.
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> *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:
> sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] *On Behalf Of *Todd
> Williams
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:16 AM
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> *Subject:* RE: Test header on riser
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> We installed a by-pass on the FDC line for the forward flow test, but he
> wants a test header as well.
>
> Todd G Williams, PE
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> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Ryan Labrie <
> rlab...@criticalsystemsolutions.com> wrote:
>
> I have installed a test header on a riser to do a flow test of a backflow,
> take a look at NFPA #13 2010 10.10.2.5
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> *From:* Sprinklerforum [
> mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org
> <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Hill
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:55 AM
> *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> *Subject:* RE: Test header on riser
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> Have not heard of this before. Perhaps he wants to do forward flow test
> for backflow preventer?
>
>
>
> Mike Hill
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> *From:* Sprinklerforum [
> mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org
> <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] *On Behalf Of *Todd
> Williams
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:41 AM
> *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> *Subject:* Test header on riser
>
>
>
> Is there any requirement to install a test header on a riser without a
> pump (In addition to arrangement for full flow FDC test)? I have an
> engineer insisting that it is. When I asked for referenced, I get the "you
> look it up" response. Just want to be sure before I scream back
>
> Todd G Williams, PE
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