Just to be clear, I ADDED the cigarettes, to simulate Bruce's embers.

And Roland, anytime you want to declare 'dead horse', I will oblige.
On Sep 7, 2016 6:23 PM, "Brad Casterline" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I put about a thousand lit cigarettes in, on, and around the trees.
> Apparently it is harder to light fairly fresh vegetation than say, a
> cardboard case of styrofoam coffee cups in the office break room.
> On Sep 7, 2016 2:25 AM, "Brad Casterline" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> My pleasure Bruce, thank you for the feedback.
>>
>> I looked at quite a bit of literaure on 'moisture content of fresh cut
>> Christmas Trees'. It looked liked 114% was common. The NIST input file I
>> used was showing 112.3, so I left it alone. In fact I did not change
>> anything about the trees.
>>
>> The ember question is excellent!
>> I will make some embers and let them fly all over the place. They will be
>> like the 'ignitor' particles shown in the partial input file except
>> STATIC=.FALSE.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Brad
>> On Sep 6, 2016 11:23 PM, "Bruce Verhei" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> Thank for the rational analysis. How did you arrive how much water the
>>> trees had on board? They start off quite dry and take up quite a bit of
>>> water the first day or two.
>>>
>>> Experience says that trees throw off embers and are ignited by same,
>>> especially if being pre-heated. I would be leery of a convection and
>>> radiant heat model covering this adequately.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Bruce Verhei
>>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 07:01, Brad Casterline <[email protected]>
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>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jri62zfn4zvulia/Tim%27s%20Trees.pdf?dl=0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For what it is worth!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the excellent sprinkler challenge Tim!!!
>>>
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