No, but I'm a longtime committee member, forum subscriber and self-appointed 
surrogate for George L. Church, the late great Direwolf of the Forum.    I'm 
pretty sure it's not the intent of this list-server to host conversations that 
trash product technologies or widely accepted good practices.   I'm neither a 
plumber nor shareholder but have a 15+ year awareness of and understanding of 
the product and I'm acutely in touch with the fact that you can't just "ban" or 
disparage a product that, in this case, arguably has a better service history 
than steel or CPVC.

PEX has a limited range of applications and pipe sizes, as well as a lower 
rated working pressure.   But it's easy to install, doesn't require threading, 
brazing, soldering, cement or any method of fusion to assemble and (unlike 
CPVC) can be tested immediately after installation.   I'm absolutely NOT 
advocating for PEX (or CPVC or copper or stainless unobtanium for that matter) 
but before you use slash and burn sales tactics, you might want to actually 
educate yourself about the product and its performance history dating back to 
1972, if I'm not mistaken.

The preceding is definitely my opinion only.  Happy weekend all,
Steve L.

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of John Irwin
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 11:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Pex

What are you, a plumber? Pex stock holder?  =)

=)



John Irwin
Manager - Fire Sprinkler Division
Critical System Solutions, LLC
Cell:     813.618.2781
Email:  
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 2:16 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Pex

John:

I'm definitely NOT the arbiter of taste and protocol for the Forum but your 
premise is - in my humblest of opinions - flawed and contentious.    What's the 
basis for your belief that a combined PEX system is garbage?  Keeping in mind 
that manufacturers of UL listed PEX are members in good standing of both AFSA 
and NFSA and their representatives serve on NFPA technical committees and the 
manufacturers/suppliers boards of both trade groups ...

Steve L.

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of John Irwin
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 11:07 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Pex

I need to convince a client that a combined pex system is garbage ... and I 
need to do it quickly. Frankly I won't use it period but other than "it's crap" 
is there another reason not to use it?


John Irwin
Manager - Fire Sprinkler Division

Critical System Solutions, LLC
2830 Scherer Drive, Suite 300
St. Petersburg, FL  33716
Office: 727.209.5122
Fax:      727.209.5126
Cell:     813.618.2781
Email:  
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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