Listed PEX A and I think the sprinklers were screwed right into the branch 
fittings because we only needed 30 minutes per UL 1821. If you really need the 
details, I have to look at my technical report and may not be able to do that 
for a couple days as I'm taking a long weekend.

Wine caves are a little different than overhead domes because we ran a CPVC 
main down the corridors under the floor and branched off with 1" PEX that 
wrapped halfway around the vault serving a single sprinkler. The CPVC was 
directly buried and the floors were made of hand-laid stone on a sand bed.

But I think you could drop to the sprinklers with CPVC or even use PEX because 
I'm not as worried about protecting piping that has a sprinkler between it and 
the heat source as I might be concerned about a piping span that's between 
sprinklers.

Steve


-------- Original message --------
From: AKS-Gmail-IMAP <[email protected]>
Date: 10/6/16 7:23 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Monolithic domes

If I may ask, was that PEX A or B and how were the last bit of drop piping 
handled where the sprinklers screwed in?

Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO


On Oct 6, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Steve Leyton 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

It's a dirty word on this Forum to some, but I would consider looking into PEX 
tubing if you can get it to work hydraulically.  The challenges with PEX are 
smaller ID and temp/pressure rating.   However, PEX can easily be attached to 
the formwork for concrete or Gunnite and we have used it with great success in 
wine caves out here on the Left Side.    Aggregate concrete has a fire 
resistance rating that can be extrapolated as about 22.2 minutes per inch and 
I've done tech reports for two wine cave applications where we obtained 
equivalency approval for this application.

Steve Leyton


From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Maurice Marvi
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 12:58 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: re: Monolithic domes

Repairing buried CPVC branch lines sounds like fun.
Not.

Maurice Marvi
________________________________
From: "Ben Young" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:18 PM
To: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Monolithic domes
Does anyone have any information at all about putting sprinklers in a concrete 
monolithic dome?
I was able to find one article about it at the monolithic dome institute's 
website here:
http://static.monolithic.com/construction/sprinklers/index.html
Looks crazy, but also interesting.

Benjamin Young

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